Volker. I don't know how to reply to what you state. I'm open to listen or
read any thoughts you have about not using bool to int.


El vie, 20 oct 2023 a las 12:20, Volker Dobler (<dr.volker.dob...@gmail.com>)
escribió:

> I use 1 a lot and 4 (or the suggested bool<-->int conv) never.
> I have no idea what you want to express with 2
> and 4 addresses a kind of problem that has no
> simple solution like a one-line function.
>
> V.
>
> On Friday, 20 October 2023 at 15:12:06 UTC+2 Victor Giordano wrote:
>
>> Hello fellow gopherships... ¿How you doing?
>>
>> Hope just fine!
>>
>> A week ago I proposed to allow conversion from bool to int, assuming
>> false to 0 and true to be 1. This was the proposal
>> <https://github.com/golang/go/issues/63544> and I do appreciate a lot
>> the polite responses from Ian.
>>
>> I pick my pike and dig into... the discussion... trying to understand
>> what was the force or the motivation that refuses the proposal.
>>
>> I Found two interesting comments:
>>
>>    - Adg stament
>>    <https://github.com/golang/go/issues/9367#issuecomment-143128337>
>>    - Commander statement
>>    <https://groups.google.com/g/golang-nuts/c/wyuBhAb1Rzk/m/i3mzAg5zoikJ>
>>
>> And what i perceive is that the cons is: *It may harm readability.*
>>
>> Well... If that is the case... (because, that is what I understood, and
>> forget me if I'm wrong!) I have some points to put into the table if you
>> allow... please, do not take it hard... I'm trying to make *an statement*
>> .
>>
>> 1) One line Swapping
>>
>> a, b := 1, 2 // I never use this.. I always forget if the 1 go to the a
>> and the 2 go to b or vice-versa.. (Like now!)
>>
>> I do like to write three lines instead of one...
>>
>> 2) Block scope, not per iteration scope
>> <https://go.dev/blog/loopvar-preview>
>>
>> Well...  actual web apps require to write in JavaScript, JavaScript uses
>> block scopes..  so I appreciate a LOT this feature of the language, but as
>> long this language has to live with other languages (like JavaScript) I
>> don't feel that this will release me from the burden of knowing how to deal
>> with block scopes variables used in a closure. JavaScript is not an example
>> of well designed language but is the language widely used in web apps.
>>
>> 3) Generics...
>>
>> Well... With interfaces I already got the genericity I need to model
>> abstractions.. But I do appreciate generics, because they do allow us to
>> write less code at the cost complicating the language grammar. I start to
>> use them... but before that I have no problem on converting an slice of
>> interfaces using a for loop.
>>
>> 4) I "grow" writing these lines on any C program  *I'm not too old (to
>> reason), but also not too young  (to dream). I have 40*
>>
>> #define TRUE 1
>> #define FALSE 0
>>
>> *That definitively has shaped my mind.*
>>
>> *So the statement is*:
>>
>> The points 1,2 and 3 I show... are examples of questionable (at least,
>> for me) things that you directly inject into the language. The point 4 I
>> show how I feel that a bool is, in turn, an int.
>>
>> The proposal of making bool to int, could co exists. And people can
>> choose to use it or not. You may give it a try... for me (and other folks)
>> well come in handy in situations like this
>> <https://github.com/vituchon/escobita/blob/dcff51ccf8b44f17d82b724650a24f967f282b9f/model/bot_player.go#L111>
>>  (context:
>> count the number of Spanish's cards that belongs to the GOLD suit).
>>
>> If you say me: "Ey victor, we just won't put it because we don't like it"
>> <- I will buy it.
>>
>> Or
>>
>> You may convince me... I leave that to you. I will try to stay open (I do
>> recognize myself as person that can be a little stubborn.)
>>
>> Final words
>>
>> Is not my language and you have done a wonderful job... I mean.. from the
>> old days in C, passing thought the cosmos of C++, then OOP disembark with
>> Java and C#... and then Golang mixing a lot of learned lessons into a
>> single language!
>>
>> Actual final words:
>>
>> Informal Greetings!  🤠🧉
>>
>>
>>
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