Thanks for the answer Joe. I have to agree it is not a turnkey solution and from the look of things people are probably better off giving up on GAE and finding an alternate host. The general feeling I find on the web is that Amazons service is better suited for the international market.
On Apr 6, 3:59 pm, Joe Bowman <bowman.jos...@gmail.com> wrote: > Get a server and IP that is available in China, but outside of the > chinese firewall. Configure it to proxy you appspot.com domain. It > gets tricky handling cookies and session state and such doing this > though. Not a turnkey solution. Basically all requests to your > appengine application coming from users using the proxy, will be seen > as the proxy machine not the individual client machines. There are > some proxy passthroughs you can do depending on the software you > choose to handle this. > > Of course you'll have to pay for the bandwidth usage going through the > proxy as well. > > On Apr 6, 12:35 pm, WallyDD <shaneb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > The internet is indeed a funny place. > > I did respond with a question on how to set this up but have received > > no answer? > > > Any ideas anyone? > > > On Apr 6, 3:03 am, Paddy Foran <foran.pa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I'd just like to point out how funny it is that people keep banging on > > > for Google to respond, and in their banging on for Google to respond, > > > they missed Google's actual response. > > > > >> Is there any google staff who is responsible for GAE promotion and > > > >> technology to say something here? > > > > >> How can I access to my Google Apps via my own domain directly, e.g. > > > >> how can access via mail.my_domain.com instead of mail.google.com/a/ > > > >> my_domain.com? > > > > >One way to address this is to run a proxy server elsewhere, which will > > > >allow your site to have it's own unique IP, rather than the shared IPs > > > >of Google. > > > > >-Brett > > > >App Engine Team > > > > Please note the "App Engine Team" signature. That means Brett (at > > > least claims he) is from Google. > > > > Poor Brett was ignored, as people clamoured for Brett to comment. > > > > This is why I love the internet. It amuses me to no end. > > > > On Apr 6, 12:48 am, Andy Freeman <ana...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > > No company is willing to be a pawn in the game of politics between > > > > > Google and China. > > > > > That sounds reasonable, but what can Google do to stop the Chinese > > > > govt from blocking? > > > > > (1) Google can't tell the Chinese govt what to do. > > > > > (2) The Chinese govt appears to be technically competent and controls > > > > the relevant connections, both from the outside and from internal > > > > datacenters. > > > > > (3) Google can propose agreements, but China is a soverign entity and > > > > and can do what it pleases wrt internal matters. (Other posters have > > > > suggested that buying dinner for the appropriate official would cause > > > > the blocking to go away. I don't see why the Chinese govt would find > > > > such an agreement binding.) > > > > > Yes, one can argue that Google "needs" the Chinese govt to not block, > > > > but that doesn't imply that Google can do anything to stop the Chinese > > > > govt from blocking. Google's needs do not obligate the Chinese govt. > > > > > On Apr 5, 3:16 pm, WallyDD <shaneb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Google is more or less obligated to solve this issue. > > > > > > No company is willing to be a pawn in the game of politics between > > > > > Google and China. > > > > > Name a single company (that has any international presence) who would > > > > > be willing to use GAE knowing full well that it is blocked in its > > > > > current form? > > > > > This issue has nothing to do with the Chinese government and there is > > > > > no way Google will point the finger at them. > > > > > > Perhaps google can also take on all the other countries that are > > > > > blocking GAE and while they are at it they can point fingers at > > > > > corporate america and their firewalls? > > > > > You have to remember that at the moment this is a "preview release". > > > > > > I don't really understand why you persist with this argument. You have > > > > > raised some valid points which should be looked at and considered in > > > > > the scheme of things but most of the diatribe you present here seems > > > > > aimed at China/Chinese Government. I have always found prejudices > > > > > cloud peoples judgement. > > > > > > To sumarise how this problem will probably be viewed; > > > > > Google created a dns based system (for GAE addressing) which puts > > > > > everything though ghs.google.com. This system works really well and > > > > > from my experience it was very clever and efficient. However it has an > > > > > issue with firewalls that got overlooked. Google has just recently > > > > > been made aware of this problem. > > > > > > On Apr 5, 12:53 pm, Andy Freeman <ana...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > Feel free to hair-split the word "obligation". > > > > > > > It's the plain meaning of the word. I apologise for not knowing > > > > > > that > > > > > > you didn't know what it meant when you wrote that Google had an > > > > > > obligation to make GAE available in China. Are there other > > > > > > statements > > > > > > that you made without understanding their meaning? > > > > > > > China availability issue is one of the few issues where folks claim > > > > > > that/act like Google has an obligation even though it's an issue > > > > > > where > > > > > > Google has very little capability to change things. > > > > > > > > That's why I want to hear from a Google representative on their > > > > > > > plan. > > > > > > > I predict that if Google says anything, it will be roughly > > > > > > equivalent > > > > > > to "we're doing what we can". At that point, you'll have to decide > > > > > > if > > > > > > the results, which will vary with the whim of the Chinese govt, are > > > > > > adequate for your purposes. > > > > > > > Of course, if you're better at dealing with the Chinese govt than > > > > > > Google is.... > > > > > > > > Now just accept that fact and act accordingly. > > > > > > > And the basis for this order is... > > > > > > > On Apr 4, 6:11 pm, Andy <selforgani...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm someone who understands that obligations come from laws and > > > > > > > > contracts. Feel free to point to the relevant chapter and > > > > > > > > verse that > > > > > > > > > However, absent a contract and/or a law, Google isn't obligated > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > make GAE applications visible in China. > > > > > > > > Feel free to hair-split the word "obligation". > > > > > > > > Does Google have the legal obligation to solve this problem? No. > > > > > > > Just > > > > > > > like Google doesn't have any legal obligation to improve this > > > > > > > service > > > > > > > or add any new features. Does that mean users should stop posting > > > > > > > any > > > > > > > thread that's about improving GAE? > > > > > > > > Does that mean you're going to start polluting every single > > > > > > > thread in > > > > > > > this forum by posting your 'Google has no legal obligation to do > > > > > > > this" > > > > > > > drivel? > > > > > > > > > Good for you. And Google may, or may not, offer such an > > > > > > > > option. Note > > > > > > > > "may not" - they're under no obligation to do so. (I don't > > > > > > > > presume to > > > > > > > > know the risks and costs of offering such an option. After > > > > > > > > all, China > > > > > > > > can block at the edge of the data centers, impose conditions, > > > > > > > > or even > > > > > > > > shut them down.) > > > > > > > > Another zero-value drivel. > > > > > > > > Yes Google may or may not offer that solution, just like they may > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > may not offer any solution to any other problems raised in this > > > > > > > forum > > > > > > > > That's why I want to hear from a Google representative on their > > > > > > > plan. > > > > > > > Your speculation on what Google may or may not do is just that, > > > > > > > worthless speculation that serves no purpose in this discussion. > > > > > > > > You're right to not "presume to know" though, seeing how you don't > > > > > > > know anything in this matter. > > > > > > > > Now just accept that fact and act accordingly.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. 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