>  I think I can live without uniqueness as
> long as timestamps don't go backwards.

Timestamps on a given server probably don't go backwards, but there's
no guarantee about the relationship between clocks on different
servers.

On Jul 13, 11:16 pm, n8gray <n8g...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Albert,
>
> Thanks for the suggestion.  I think I can live without uniqueness as
> long as timestamps don't go backwards.  But I think my problem still
> exists with a sharded counter.  Having a counter is certainly better
> than using datetime.utcnow() and lets me assign an order to all events
> that have been generated, but that's not really the problem.  The
> tricky part is deciding, on the client end, which events to request
> based on the events you've received.  When the client asks for "all
> events after time T" it gets some "last" event with a new timestamp
> S.  But I don't think you can trust this S because there might be some
> other event in some corner of GAE with an earlier timestamp that
> hasn't yet been observed by the server that answered the client's
> request.
>
> I guess the root of the problem is that I know that transactions on
> entity groups give me the ACID properties but when it comes to
> operations outside of transactions I have no idea what the consistency
> model is.  Has this been described somewhere?
>
> Thanks,
> -n8
>
> On Jul 13, 7:06 pm, Albert <albertpa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi!
>
> > This is a quick suggestion.
>
> > How about using a global counter (just like your title suggests). You
> > can use a sharded global counter to facilitate your counting.
>
> > And use that counter as a "timestamp" / bookmark.
>
> > On every "event", you read from the global counter, use that value as
> > your "timestamp", and then increment the global counter.
>
> > I'm not sure of it's implications, though. I'm not also sure if it
> > actually guarantees uniqueness of "timestamps" when two events happen
> > almost at the same time.
>
> > Perhaps you can get an idea from this.
>
> > Enjoy!- Hide quoted text -
>
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