Hi,
Can those of you who are experiencing elevated CPU recently please supply
your app IDs (either in response to the thread or via email), along with the
URLs that appear to be affected (if applicable)?

Thanks,

Nick Johnson

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:54 AM, herbie <4whi...@o2.co.uk> wrote:

>
> It seems I'm not the only one. I was starting to think I was imagining
> it! Thanks for supporting this thread.
> Would anyone fro Google like to comment?
>
>
>
> On Sep 8, 11:01 pm, Robert Kluin <robert.kl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have some code that is now using more CPU as well.
> >
> > Previously:
> > 1530cpu_ms 616api_cpu_ms
> > 1404cpu_ms 995api_cpu_ms
> > 1104cpu_ms 695api_cpu_ms
> >
> > Now:
> > 4619cpu_ms 4133api_cpu_ms
> > 4619cpu_ms 4133api_cpu_ms  (yes, it is exactly the same)
> >
> > That is unchanged code.  Same exact data.
> >
> > Robert
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 3:23 PM, bFlood <bflood...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I just ran a batch delete using the Task queue. It grabs the next 50
> > > keys for a Kind and then calls db.delete(keys), so fairly simple
> > > stuff. here's some example results in the log:
> >
> > > 865ms 1032cpu_ms 952api_cpu_ms
> > > 1058ms 1040cpu_ms 952api_cpu_ms
> > > 947ms 49947cpu_ms 49869api_cpu_ms    <--???
> > > 1425ms 1035cpu_ms 952api_cpu_ms
> > > 1674ms 41181cpu_ms 41094api_cpu_ms
> >
> > > any thoughts? something seems wrong to me
> >
> > > cheers
> > > brian
> >
> > > On Sep 8, 8:56 am, bFlood <bflood...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > ok, I was able to check over my code again and even with rolling back
> > > > small changes, the large CPU increases are still there. at this
> point,
> > > > I have to agree with herbie's findings as well. It would be nice if
> > > > Google could weigh in on this troubling issue
> >
> > > > cheers
> > > > brian
> >
> > > > On Sep 8, 4:51 am, herbie <4whi...@o2.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > > > On Sep 8, 12:07 am, Stephen <sdea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > OK, but because api_cpu_ms is 96% of the total, then cpu_ms is
> also
> > > > > > almost 3x higher? The spike is showing up in the cpu_ms?
> >
> > > > > Yes in total the cpu_ms has gone up by nearly 3x too.
> >
> > > > > But as I understand it cpu_ms is the total cpu usage for the
> request
> > > > > and api_cpu_ms is the cpu usage by GAE api calls.   So the
> difference
> > > > > between the two is the cpu usage of my non api code. This
> difference
> > > > > hasn’t increased because the code hasn’t changed.
> >
> > > > > But yes, the new high value for api_cpu_ms directly affects my
> quota
> > > > > because it makes the vast majority of cpu_ms.  So we do pay for
> > > > > api_cpu_ms !   So for example if Google makes a change to db.put()
> > > > > (or any api call) so that it uses more cpu,   we will be billed for
> > > > > more cpu usage even if our code hasn’t changed.
> >
> > > > > As my code/ indexes hasn’t changed and the api_cpu_ms  has shot up
> the
> > > > > obvious conclusion is that an api/datastore  change has caused it?
> >
> > > > > But there may be another ‘good’ reason for it, which I can’t think
> > > > > of,  but as I’m going to have to pay for the increase in
> api_cpu_ms,
> > > > > I would really appreciate  it if someone at Google could help.
> >
> > > > > On Sep 8, 12:07 am, Stephen <sdea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > On Sep 7, 8:57 pm, herbie <4whi...@o2.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > On Sep 7, 6:50 pm, Stephen <sdea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > What about cpu_ms, is that also higher for requests which
> write
> > > to the
> > > > > > > > data store?
> >
> > > > > > > No, not in relation to api_cpu_ms.  For the request that does
> the
> > > most
> > > > > > > writing to the datastore api_cpu_ms accounts for 96% of the
> total
> > > > > > > cpu_ms value!.  The so request handler does not much more than
> > > create
> > > > > > > new entities in the datastore.
> >
> > > > > > OK, but because api_cpu_ms is 96% of the total, then cpu_ms is
> also
> > > > > > almost 3x higher? The spike is showing up in the cpu_ms?
> >
> > > > > > cpu_ms is billed for, so if you have billing enabled you are
> being
> > > > > > overcharged.
> >
> > > > > > You could try asking for a refund here:
> >
> > >http://code.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=AppEngineB.
> ..
> >
>


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