I see similar results. The total api cpu time is much higher then
actual time spent on the actual call. I use a profiling api delegate
that logs every api call duration, and the total api cpu reported on
admin console is usually at least 2 times higher.

On Sep 9, 2:05 pm, Lec <lec...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I cannot confirm what it was like previous to 1.2.5 release, but I
> think I am seeing something similar. Although with task queues my
> workers do data processing then store the data in datastore, i am NOT
> seeingcpuproblems with workers. I only see problems with the
> datastore in the main threads where i do not use workers. Did anyone
> have this kind of experience?
>
> L
>
> On Sep 9, 3:54 am, herbie <4whi...@o2.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > It seems I'm not the only one. I was starting to think I was imagining
> > it! Thanks for supporting this thread.
> > Would anyone fro Google like to comment?
>
> > On Sep 8, 11:01 pm, Robert Kluin <robert.kl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I have some code that is now using moreCPUas well.
>
> > > Previously:
> > > 1530cpu_ms 616api_cpu_ms
> > > 1404cpu_ms 995api_cpu_ms
> > > 1104cpu_ms 695api_cpu_ms
>
> > > Now:
> > > 4619cpu_ms 4133api_cpu_ms
> > > 4619cpu_ms 4133api_cpu_ms  (yes, it is exactly the same)
>
> > > That is unchanged code.  Same exact data.
>
> > > Robert
>
> > > On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 3:23 PM, bFlood <bflood...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I just ran a batch delete using the Task queue. It grabs the next 50
> > > > keys for a Kind and then calls db.delete(keys), so fairly simple
> > > > stuff. here's some example results in the log:
>
> > > > 865ms 1032cpu_ms 952api_cpu_ms
> > > > 1058ms 1040cpu_ms 952api_cpu_ms
> > > > 947ms 49947cpu_ms 49869api_cpu_ms    <--???
> > > > 1425ms 1035cpu_ms 952api_cpu_ms
> > > > 1674ms 41181cpu_ms 41094api_cpu_ms
>
> > > > any thoughts? something seems wrong to me
>
> > > > cheers
> > > > brian
>
> > > > On Sep 8, 8:56 am, bFlood <bflood...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > ok, I was able to check over my code again and even with rolling back
> > > > > small changes, the largeCPUincreases are still there. at this point,
> > > > > I have to agree with herbie's findings as well. It would be nice if
> > > > > Google could weigh in on this troubling issue
>
> > > > > cheers
> > > > > brian
>
> > > > > On Sep 8, 4:51 am, herbie <4whi...@o2.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Sep 8, 12:07 am, Stephen <sdea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > OK, but because api_cpu_ms is 96% of the total, then cpu_ms is 
> > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > almost 3x higher? The spike is showing up in the cpu_ms?
>
> > > > > > Yes in total the cpu_ms has gone up by nearly 3x too.
>
> > > > > > But as I understand it cpu_ms is the totalcpuusage for the request
> > > > > > and api_cpu_ms is thecpuusage by GAE api calls.   So the difference
> > > > > > between the two is thecpuusage of my non api code. This difference
> > > > > > hasn’t increased because the code hasn’t changed.
>
> > > > > > But yes, the newhighvalue for api_cpu_ms directly affects my quota
> > > > > > because it makes the vast majority of cpu_ms.  So we do pay for
> > > > > > api_cpu_ms !   So for example if Google makes a change to db.put()
> > > > > > (or any api call) so that it uses morecpu,   we will be billed for
> > > > > > morecpuusage even if our code hasn’t changed.
>
> > > > > > As my code/ indexes hasn’t changed and the api_cpu_ms  has shot up 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > obvious conclusion is that an api/datastore  change has caused it?
>
> > > > > > But there may be another ‘good’ reason for it, which I can’t think
> > > > > > of,  but as I’m going to have to pay for the increase in api_cpu_ms,
> > > > > > I would really appreciate  it if someone at Google could help.
>
> > > > > > On Sep 8, 12:07 am, Stephen <sdea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Sep 7, 8:57 pm, herbie <4whi...@o2.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On Sep 7, 6:50 pm, Stephen <sdea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > What about cpu_ms, is that also higher for requests which 
> > > > > > > > > write
> > > > to the
> > > > > > > > > data store?
>
> > > > > > > > No, not in relation to api_cpu_ms.  For the request that does 
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > most
> > > > > > > > writing to the datastore api_cpu_ms accounts for 96% of the 
> > > > > > > > total
> > > > > > > > cpu_ms value!.  The so request handler does not much more than
> > > > create
> > > > > > > > new entities in the datastore.
>
> > > > > > > OK, but because api_cpu_ms is 96% of the total, then cpu_ms is 
> > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > almost 3x higher? The spike is showing up in the cpu_ms?
>
> > > > > > > cpu_ms is billed for, so if you have billing enabled you are being
> > > > > > > overcharged.
>
> > > > > > > You could try asking for a refund here:
>
> > > >http://code.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=AppEngineB...

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