There is a gray area. Ikai talked about it, and I believe you fall right in the middle of it. Anything can be considered a "service" by the English definition, including, as you mentioned, simply uploading the files. But I'm pretty sure you can't open up a website offering "upload services" for $30/month that happen to come with free hosting. If you designed, built, and deployed the site, that may be a different story - but that's exactly the point I am trying to make. The more value a developer provides relative to the value of the hosting, the more likely it is that they are not in violation. The less value one offers (i.e. simply uploading the files), the more likely it is that they are in violation. I'm not sure I'm right, but I offered the idea. It's because it's complicated that it takes 6 pages of single-spaced text to explain it.
Baz On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Robin <ro...@massartsystems.com> wrote: > I don't see how your first example could be construed as reselling at > all. I do essentially exactly that for a couple of my own personal > websites. It's free and the pages load incredibly fast compared to > other hosting I've used. If a client is willing to pay me X$/month to > host their static files on App Engine I don't consider that reselling. > That's me providing a service as Ikai noted below (eg uploading the > files, uploading future changes, possibly designing the site in the > first place and so on). If a client knows how to do all this > themselves, why would they pay me to do it for them. It IS a service I > am providig. > > Reselling to me would be basically adding some form of gateway to App > Engine, which basically runs appcfg.py . I certainly can't see how the > "complexity" of an app could be a legal indicator as to whether you > are breaking the TOS. > > On May 18, 8:38 pm, Baz <b...@thinkloop.com> wrote: > > The gray area seems to depend, partly, on the complexity of the app. If, > for > > example, you build a 1 page static business-card website that you host on > > GAE and charge $30/month for, that can be construed as selling hosting. > On > > the other hand, if your application is very large and complex and > provides > > lots of value, but you sold it in the same way, it seems that it would be > > ok. > > > > Baz > > > > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Ikai L (Google) <ika...@google.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > That's allowed. We're more permissive than restrictive with the terms > of > > > service. Unless you are reselling the baseline App Engine service, you > > > should not be in violation. 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