On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Darien Caldwell <darien.caldw...@gmail.com>wrote:
> I don't think you understood what he was saying. Google support sent > him an email about their impending takedown with spam links in the > body of the email, resulting in the official Google email being caught > in spam filters and not being delivered. > Yup! > > That definitely *is* something the support team should avoid doing in > the future. > > > On Dec 21, 3:01 am, Jeff Schwartz <jefftschwa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi > > > > Respectfully, I don't really think it is nor should it be the > responsibility > > of the support team. It should be, I believe, the responsibility of every > > AppEngine developer to ensure that their application adheres to the TOS > > because that is what we agreed to out of choice when we signed up. > > > But the following is certainly still valid and might save him some grief in the future: > > Perhaps you can add some logic into your application that would allow > those > > who spot potential spam to report it and that then would allow you to > take > > some action. > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 2:12 AM, vrypan <vry...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > OK, mystery solved. > > > > > Ikai's emails contained the links that were used by spammers, and > > > GMail treated them as... spam :-) This is something that the support > > > team might have in mind for the future... > > > > > P. > > > > > On Dec 21, 7:53 am, vrypan <vry...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Ikai, thanks for stepping in, but I still can't find any emails from > > > > you in my inbox. > > > > Could you please resend whatever you have send me? (BTW, I just > > > > received an order receipt from AppEngine, so I'm sure I'm checking > the > > > > right email) > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Panayotis. > > > > > > On Dec 20, 11:08 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)" > > > > <ikai.l+gro...@google.com<ikai.l%2bgro...@google.com> > <ikai.l%2bgro...@google.com <ikai.l%252bgro...@google.com>> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I'm working with him off-list to resolve the issue. > > > > > > > In general, it's important to remember that as application > developers, > > > you > > > > > are responsible for the content that is posted to your application. > If > > > > > objectionable content is reported that violates the terms of > service, > > > > > someone from our team will usually email the developers. We expect > a > > > > > response within 48 business hours. In most (99.99%) of cases, we > will > > > not > > > > > disable applications before notifying developers. We ask people > > > requesting > > > > > takedowns for proof or, in cases of copyright violations, to follow > the > > > DMCA > > > > > takedown procedures as documented for all Google properties. > > > > > > > The type of situations where we'd take down a site while notifying > a > > > > > developer at the same time would be, for instance, a site that > hosts a > > > worm > > > > > or exploits end user computer vulnerabilities. > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Ikai Lan > > > > > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine > > > > > Blogger:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com > > > > > Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine > > > > > Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Maxim Veksler < > ma...@vekslers.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Joshua Smith < > > > joshuaesm...@charter.net>wrote: > > > > > > > >> Thanks for posting this to the list. His story was > disconcerting, > > > and > > > > > >> it's good to hear that he didn't respond to your emails. > > > > > > > >> -Joshua > > > > > > > >> On Dec 20, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Ikai Lan (Google) wrote: > > > > > > > >> Hi, > > > > > > > >> I sent you an email a week requesting a response. Please check > your > > > inbox > > > > > >> for emails from me addressed to the billing administrator of > your > > > > > >> application (vrypan@). Because you didn't respond, I was forced > to > > > > > >> disable your application. > > > > > > > >> Your application is in violation of our terms of service because > it > > > is > > > > > >> being targeted by spammers to shorten spam URLs. If we are > reported > > > > > >> instances of these, we will contact the developers to: > > > > > > > >> 1. Remove the content > > > > > >> 2. Take aggressive measures to prevent spamming of their service > > > > > > > >> Our terms of service dictate that you are responsible for > policing > > > the > > > > > >> content of your application. If you are in violation, we will > first > > > notify > > > > > >> you and work with you before disabling your application. > However, if > > > we do > > > > > >> not receive a response, we will go ahead and disable the > > > application. > > > > > > > >> Please work with me off mailing list to resolve the issue. > > > > > > > >> -- > > > > > >> Ikai Lan > > > > > >> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine > > > > > >> Blogger:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com > > > > > >> Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine > > > > > >> Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine > > > > > > > >> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Jorge Guberte < > > > jorgegube...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > > > >>> If that's the case, then the app i'm developing will be shut > for > > > sure, > > > > > >>> because it extends the Google Contacts platform, making use of > the > > > API > > > > > >>> Google provides. > > > > > >>> Makes no sense, right? > > > > > > > >>> 2010/12/19 Philip <philip.mates...@driggle.com> > > > > > > > >>> There is no way that the app was disabled because Google fears > > > > > >>>> competition. I'm currently developing a google news like > service > > > on > > > > > >>>> app engine and I got access to the matcher api and prediction > api > > > > > >>>> without any problems even though I have told explicitly that I > am > > > > > >>>> doing this. I also got always help from Googlers like Ikai in > the > > > IRC > > > > > >>>> channel. > > > > > > > >>>> Besides, I'm pretty sure that it would be *highly* risky for > > > Google to > > > > > >>>> disable apps that are competing with their own services. They > > > would > > > > > >>>> abuse their online monopoly and this could result in > > > astronomically > > > > > >>>> huge judicial punishment. > > > > > > > >>>> On Dec 18, 8:56 am, Nickolas Daskalou <n...@daskalou.com> > wrote: > > > > > >>>> > It may have been disabled because it competes with Google's > URL > > > > > >>>> > shortening offering (http://goo.gl/). > > > > > > > >>>> > Nick > > > > > > > >>>> > On 18/12/2010, at 1:21 PM, vrypan <vry...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >>>> > > Hi. I've been running my URL shortener, urlborg.com, on > > > appengine > > > > > >>>> > > since 2008. Suddenly, yesterday, the app was marked as > > > DISABLED by > > > > > >>>> > > google, and no one can access it. How do I get in contact > with > > > > > >>>> > > someone that can explain what's going on? I feel really > bad > > > for the > > > > > > > >>>> > > users that relied on my service. > > > > > > > >>>> > > I really, really like AppEngine, I mean, if you are > offering a > > > > > >>>> > > hosting environment, and people are paying for it, you > can't > > > just > > > > > >>>> > > switch off an account, without a warning, or a notice or > > > > > >>>> something... > > > > > > > >>>> > > Panayotis > > > > > >>>> > > -- > > > > > >>>> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to > the > > > Google > > > > > >>>> > > Groups "Google App Engine" group. > > > > > >>>> > > To post to this group, send email to google- > > > > > >>>> > > appeng...@googlegroups.com. > > > > > >>>> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > >>>> google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<google-appengine%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com><google-appengine%2Bunsubscrib > e...@googlegroups.com> > > > 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