In case that Google link didn't make sense.   That's 2500 sites (2.5% of
CF's Site base) that have had their site present Google bot with an access
denied error.  Not with a 500 error, Not with a 403. With a perfectly happy
200. 

 

As to my loyalties and background. CDNinaBox runs on GAE. I'm not likely to
make any money selling it to GAE users.

 

Currently CDN In A Box has 150-ish Domains running on it.  Our typical
customer is on the service less than 90 days before we move them to a bigger
solution, or resolve their issues.  The sites that are on longer are small
sites that aren't looking to scale.  CDN in a Box does NOT view CF as a
competitor, we do view them as a lead generator for our SEO services at
BlackWaterOps.com in fact, we would make the most money if more people would
join Cloud Flare.

 

And when comparing our bias, consider that CF only shows up in this forum
when they want to bash me, bash GAE, or claim they handle Proxies correctly
and that GAE treats them unfarely. I'm here every day. Multiple times a day,
and have maybe promoted my products or services 10 times, and those were for
people who were considering building what I already had built, not because I
was going to get rich on $20 a month. (I can't even make that back on the 45
minute call I have with most of those people to help them figure out their
issues).

 

 


Brandon Wirtz 
BlackWaterOps: President / Lead Mercenary 

Description: http://www.linkedin.com/img/signature/bg_slate_385x42.jpg



Work: 510-992-6548 
Toll Free: 866-400-4536 

IM: drak...@gmail.com (Google Talk) 
Skype: drakegreene 

 <http://www.blackwaterops.com/> BlackWater Ops 


                

 

 

 

 

 

From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
[mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Wirtz
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 12:39 PM
To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [google-appengine] Re: calling out the app engine team on ssl
for custom domains

 

I have said multiple times our customers don't align at all, and we started
CDN in a Box as a result of the needs of clients who were experiencing
issues with CF.   

 

CiaB doesn't do SSL at all.

 

My concerns aren't speculated.  

 

http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab
<http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&source=hp&q=%22This+restriction
+will+disappear+when+no+more+harmful+behavior+is+detected.%22&pbx=1&oq=%22Th
is+restriction+will+disappear+when+no+more+harmful+behavior+is+detected.%22&
aq=f&aqi=&aql=1&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=18730l20344l2l20823l>
&hl=en&source=hp&q=%22This+restriction+will+disappear+when+no+more+harmful+b
ehavior+is+detected.%22&pbx=1&oq=%22This+restriction+will+disappear+when+no+
more+harmful+behavior+is+detected.%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=1&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=18730l2
0344l2l20823l3l3l0l0l0l0l91l149l2l2l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.&fp=4434126
5e68b94f2&biw=1021&bih=567

Check out all of these sites that CF has presented the Captcha to Google
Crawler. Do this twice and all of a sudden that ranking you had for "Ice
cream San Francisco" goes away.

 

 

 

From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
[mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Prince
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 8:16 PM
To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Re: calling out the app engine team on ssl
for custom domains

 

Take Brandon's comments with a bit of a grain of salt given that he's trying
to launch a CloudFlare-like competitor called CDN in a Box. Here's info on
CloudFlare and SEO addressing his speculated concerns:

 

http://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-and-seo

 

Short summary: we actually markedly improve most sites' SEO and can help
AppEngine users get SSL on a custom domain.

 

As to the topic at hand, a number of users requested that we provide a way
to allow SSL on AppEngine. We added a simple feature to support it and have
been surprised how many people have taken advantage of it. Implementing SSL
in a cloud-based environment is non-trivial and we spent more than a year,
had to form several key partnerships, and developed significant technology,
in order to get it to work reliably before we launched CloudFlare. If there
are further ways we can help the AppEngine developer community, let us know.

 

Matthew Prince

CEO, CloudFlare

@eastdakota <http://twitter.com/#!/eastdakota> 

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