Stake in the heart of micro-non-profit, volunteer organization as well. I have supported several, and the number of volunteers times $50 is impractical. I am talking about micro-non-profits such as groups is small towns that organize to get levies passed (WA school funding phenom). They often have NO BUDGET because it is 100% volunteer. Oh well, we will persevere I am sure. Good thing kids holding signs on street corners is still free. -stevep
On Friday, December 7, 2012 11:58:56 AM UTC-8, techamerica wrote: > > Thank you Kyle! > > I'm looking into it. But we are hoping that when Google realizes how petty > killing of the support for micro business's is, that they may change their > minds. My typical start up client is three to 4 people, but about half of > them are under three. Basically 'mom and pops'. The client that I just > signed up is dad doing manufacturing, mom doing the sales and accounting > and packaging, daughter doing deliveries and customer service. They are > struggling. I recommended Google apps for them as a way to 'start off > right', 'standardize on a reliable service' and have a cost effective > solution for them as they grow. I get to be admin for them, and prove that > by being able to connect them with Google Apps service that I am a valuable > member of their team. So they win, and I win. > > But Google also wins. Everything from good will, and living the 'do no > harm' philosophy, to getting first bite at the successful companies that > survive. I've set up many a client over the years for this kind of > solution. And many have grown into paid services-everything from the apps > upgrade itself to adwords. The decision to kill off services for these > kinds of business's hurts everyone, including Google. > > Frank > > > > On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Kyle Finley <kylef...@gmail.com<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> techamerica, >> >> Have you looked into Windows Live Custom Domains >> https://domains.live.com/ ? I think what you could do is: >> >> 1. Add your clients domain as Greg described. >> 2. Setup your clients email using Windows Live >> 3. Create regular google accounts (not gmail accounts) using the Windows >> Live email addresses e.g. us...@example.com <javascript:> >> 4. Add the users as developers to the account so that you can send emails >> using their address. >> >> I haven't tested this, but I think it should work. It adds a few more >> hoops to jump through, but I guess that's the cost of free. >> >> Kyle >> >> On Friday, December 7, 2012 11:31:13 AM UTC-6, techamerica wrote: >>> >>> Well Merry Christmas to you too Greg and Google. >>> >>> Have you guys even stopped to consider the effects eliminating the small >>> standard app will have on small business? I for one do not know if I can >>> survive. I make my living on helping very small business's get efficient on >>> the web. And part of that was introducing those small clients to Google >>> Apps Standard and Google Adwords. I was literally in the process of setting >>> up 2 brand new clients when this hit. I just cashed their checks on >>> Tuesday. Now I am going to have to give them their money back. Right before >>> Christmas. And when I say small clients I am talking about 4 or 5 people. >>> >>> If you even would have given us some notice, we might have managed it. >>> How many of us small, one and two and three man shops have supported Google >>> over the years? >>> >>> Thanks a lot. Merry Christmas. >>> >>> On Thursday, December 6, 2012 6:42:42 PM UTC-8, Greg wrote: >>>> >>>> Just saw that Google Apps is no longer free for >>>> businesses<http://googleenterprise.blogspot.co.nz/2012/12/changes-to-google-apps-for-businesses.html> >>>> . >>>> >>>> I have no problem paying for a Google Apps account where I actually use >>>> Google apps, but at the moment you have to have a Google Apps account to >>>> link a domain to an Appengine app. Some of our apps have two or three >>>> domains showing the same app, and because you need to have an account for >>>> each email address that Appengine sends email from, we have three or four >>>> accounts per domain. So this is potentially going to add $600 per year to >>>> our costs - all for virtual accounts that don't actually use Google Apps >>>> at >>>> all. >>>> >>>> Can someone from Google comment please? 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