Thanks for the clarification Chris. FWIW the blobstore files API (at least in Python) is also not very reliable (I've seen hangs as often as 1 in 10 file create-writes). So I'll be migrating my blob writes from blobstore to GCS as soon as possible!
>From my perspective the blobstore could be deprecated with GCS arrival EXCEPT the following functionality needs to be preserved: 1. The ability to upload files to GCS (of course you can already upload to GCS but this is currently done via the blobstore API). SOLUTION: gcs.create_upload_url() and gcs.GCSUploadHandler 2. The ability to serve and transform images via get_serving_url and Image. (again, you can already dynamically serve GCS images but it requires a call to blobstore create_gs_key). SOLUTION: Update the Images API to directly integrate with GCS everywhere blobstore does! With the above 2 solutions... I have no need for blobstore (although I'll have some code to migrate)! On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:20:49 PM UTC-4, Chris Ramsdale wrote: > > Jason, that is correct -- in a future release we are going to > decommission the Experimental Google Cloud Storage API Functions. These > APIs and their Experimental status are documented at the following links: > > - > https://developers.google.com/appengine/docs/python/googlestorage/functions > - > https://developers.google.com/appengine/docs/java/googlestorage/overview > > Given this, we're moving the new Google Cloud Storage Client > Library<https://code.google.com/p/appengine-gcs-client/>to Preview in the > 1.8.1 release. Unlike Experimental features, Preview > features are guaranteed to move to General Availability (GA). We encourage > developers to start moving over to the new Cloud Storage Client Library as > soon as possible. Information on getting started can be found at the open > source project linked below. > > https://code.google.com/p/appengine-gcs-client/ > > Cheers, > > -- Chris Ramsdale > > Product Manager, Google App Engine > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Jason Galea <ja...@lecstor.com<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> yeh, same here, but it looks like they should have said "experimental >> Cloud Files API".. >> https://developers.google.com/appengine/docs/python/googlestorage/functions >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Bryce Cutt <pand...@gmail.com<javascript:> >> > wrote: >> >>> So, so I don't misunderstand, when you say "experimental Files API" you >>> are not including this one? >>> >>> https://developers.google.com/appengine/docs/python/blobstore/blobstorefiles >>> >>> That is the one I thought was being deprecated when I saw the >>> announcement. >>> >>> - Bryce >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 5:07:59 PM UTC-7, Max Ross wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> I'll try to batch answers to multiple questions into a single response. >>>> >>>> 1) We're not making any Blobstore announcements or decisions in this >>>> release. >>>> >>>> 2) The only thing we're announcing here is our intent to decommission >>>> the experimental Files API. That's >>>> https://developers.google.com/**appengine/docs/python/** >>>> googlestorage/functions<https://developers.google.com/appengine/docs/python/googlestorage/functions>and >>>> >>>> https://developers.google.**com/appengine/docs/java/** >>>> googlestorage/overview<https://developers.google.com/appengine/docs/java/googlestorage/overview> >>>> We'll give you fair warning before we actually turn it down. We're >>>> announcing this now to give everyone who uses the Files API enough time to >>>> move over to the Google Cloud Storage client library, which we're >>>> launching >>>> in Preview mode. >>>> >>>> 3) We (very quietly) announced the availability of the Google Cloud >>>> Storage client library in a >>>> post<https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/google-appengine/google$20cloud$20storage$20library/google-appengine/vXKiUHvPHRs/7ia8d_xO8KYJ>on >>>> this forum back in January. There are full-fledged docs for this library >>>> coming out with the official 1.8.1 announcement, including a guide to >>>> migrating off the Files API. >>>> >>>> I hope this helps. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Max >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 2:13:19 PM UTC-7, Kaan Soral wrote: >>>>> >>>>> +1 on this question >>>>> I've been using blobstore for years, it's not so bad, it's bad but not >>>>> too bad >>>>> >>>>> Should I invest my time and switch to Cloud Storage? (I don't even >>>>> know how it works, whether it's practical for image like files etc. since >>>>> blobstore did the job I've never investigated it) >>>>> >>>>> On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 11:45:35 PM UTC+3, Bryce Cutt wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Regarding the Files API deprecation: >>>>>> >>>>>> Is this as of right now or as of the final release of SDK 1.8.1? >>>>>> >>>>>> I guess files already written will continue to work as is since they >>>>>> are no different than other blobstore files? Anything wrong with that >>>>>> assumption? >>>>>> >>>>>> With this announcement, Google's push for use of Cloud Storage, and >>>>>> the lack of a blobstore API in the PHP runtime should we be ready for >>>>>> you >>>>>> guys to announce the deprecation of the blobstore entirely? I hope not. >>>>>> I >>>>>> like the blobstore and how it is nicely and automatically isolated to a >>>>>> single app. >>>>>> >>>>>> - Bryce >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 11:46:22 AM UTC-7, Richmond Manzana wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Again Everyone! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We've been busy since I/O! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pre-release SDKs for Python and Java here: >>>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/**googl**eappengine/downloads/list<http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/downloads/list> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please see the pre-release notes below. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Richmond Manzana >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> App Engine Python SDK - Pre-Release Notes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Version 1.8.1 >>>>>>> ==============================**= >>>>>>> - The Task Queue async API is now a GA feature. The asynchronous >>>>>>> methods >>>>>>> improve utilization by allowing your app to add, lease and delete >>>>>>> multiple >>>>>>> tasks in parallel. >>>>>>> - Cloud Console projects are now created by default whenever a new >>>>>>> App Engine >>>>>>> app is created. This is a Preview feature. >>>>>>> - The Experimental Files API has been deprecated in favor of the >>>>>>> Google Cloud >>>>>>> Storage library, now available as a Preview feature. >>>>>>> - Bandwidth between App Engine and Google Cloud Storage is currently >>>>>>> free of >>>>>>> charge (this may change in the future for certain levels of >>>>>>> service). >>>>>>> - The Search API has graduated from Experimental to Preview. Apps >>>>>>> that have >>>>>>> billing enabled can exceed the free quota levels and will be >>>>>>> charged for >>>>>>> usage above these levels. >>>>>>> - Estimated number of search results will only be accurate if <= the >>>>>>> number of >>>>>>> results requested. By default this can be overridden by setting >>>>>>> number_found_accuracy QueryOption in the Search API. >>>>>>> - Dates, atoms, and number fields can now be found by searching >>>>>>> without a field >>>>>>> restriction in the Search API. >>>>>>> - A quoted empty string now returns atom fields with empty values >>>>>>> for the >>>>>>> Search API. >>>>>>> - Snippet and count functions are no longer allowed in sort >>>>>>> expressions for the >>>>>>> Search API. >>>>>>> - The Search API now has improved error messages for user errors and >>>>>>> internal >>>>>>> errors. >>>>>>> - The Datastore now assigns scattered auto ids by default. Legacy >>>>>>> auto ids >>>>>>> are still available via the 'auto_id_policy' option in app.yaml. >>>>>>> - The Sockets API now allows client code to call get/set options >>>>>>> against >>>>>>> sockets. Previously, calls raised "Not Implemented" exceptions. >>>>>>> For supported >>>>>>> options, calls to getsockopt will return a mock value and calls to >>>>>>> setsockopt >>>>>>> will be silently ignored. Errors will continue to be raised for >>>>>>> unsupported >>>>>>> options. The currently supported options are: SO_KEEPALIVE, >>>>>>> SO_DEBUG, >>>>>>> TCP_NODELAY, SO_LINGER, SO_OOBINLINE, SO_SNDBUF, SO_RCVBUF, and >>>>>>> SO_REUSEADDR. >>>>>>> - The ndb library now supports distinct queries. This is a Preview >>>>>>> feature. >>>>>>> https://code.google.com/p/**appengine-ndb-experiment/** >>>>>>> issues/detail?id=229<https://code.google.com/p/appengine-ndb-experiment/issues/detail?id=229> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> App Engine Java SDK - Pre-Release Notes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Version 1.8.1 >>>>>>> ============= >>>>>>> - This SDK will be the last release that can deploy Java 6 apps. In >>>>>>> 1.8.2, >>>>>>> the SDK will only be compiled with the Java 7 compiler and the >>>>>>> only target >>>>>>> runtime will be Java 7. >>>>>>> - The Task Queue async API is now a GA feature. The asynchronous >>>>>>> methods >>>>>>> improve utilization by allowing your app to add, lease and delete >>>>>>> multiple >>>>>>> tasks in parallel. >>>>>>> - Cloud Console projects are now created by default whenever a new >>>>>>> App Engine >>>>>>> app is created. This is a Preview feature. >>>>>>> - The Experimental Files API has been deprecated in favor of the >>>>>>> Google Cloud >>>>>>> Storage library, now available as a Preview feature. >>>>>>> - Bandwidth between App Engine and Google Cloud Storage is currently >>>>>>> free of >>>>>>> charge (this may change in the future for certain levels of >>>>>>> service). >>>>>>> - The Search API has graduated from Experimental to Preview. Apps >>>>>>> that have >>>>>>> billing enabled can exceed the free quota levels and will be >>>>>>> charged for >>>>>>> usage above these levels. >>>>>>> - Estimated number of search results will only be accurate if <= the >>>>>>> number of >>>>>>> results requested. By default this can be overridden by setting X >>>>>>> in the >>>>>>> Search API. >>>>>>> - Dates, atoms, and number fields can now be found by searching >>>>>>> without a field >>>>>>> restriction in the Search API. >>>>>>> - A quoted empty string now returns atom fields with empty values >>>>>>> for the >>>>>>> Search API. >>>>>>> - Snippet and count functions are no longer allowed in sort >>>>>>> expressions for the >>>>>>> Search API. >>>>>>> - The Search API now has improved error messages for user errors and >>>>>>> internal >>>>>>> errors. >>>>>>> - The Datastore now assigns scattered auto ids by default. Legacy >>>>>>> auto ids >>>>>>> are still available via the 'auto_id_policy' option in >>>>>>> appengine-web.xml. >>>>>>> - The Sockets API now allows client code to call get/set options >>>>>>> against >>>>>>> sockets. 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