Something is missing 'docs' wise. It's very unclear what you are meant to 
use tools wise (this is a perpetual issue with Google cloud)

Every few weeks I figure I should be using gcloud but whenever I try it 
doesn't work and there are no docs to explain how to set it up. AFAIK it's 
all running, I use it for other things, it doesn't work for Go and never 
has. It tells me extra files exist and should be removed - if I remove them 
then even more things stop working.

goapp was simpler / easier and I still use it because it works and I can't 
keep spending time trying to figure out gcloud.


On Tuesday, 25 April 2017 10:46:26 UTC-6, Justin Beckwith wrote:
>
> Hey folks,
> Apologies for the confusion.  Here's what's happening.
>
> *We are trying to move towards a single Cloud SDK install.*  At the same 
> time, we're trying not to break the existing App Engine SDK downloads.  We 
> are headed towards a future (not far away) where everything gets wrapped up 
> into https://cloud.google.com/sdk/.  Instead of having separate SDKs for 
> Go/Python/Java/PHP, we want one toolchain.
>
> *We are moving towards tooling consistency.*  The goal is to make `gcloud 
> app deploy` work for each language supported by App Engine.  With the 
> exception of Java, we're mostly there.  You should be able to use `gcloud 
> app deploy` and `dev_appserver.py .` instead of `goapp update ` or `goapp 
> serve`.
>
> I'm interested in getting some feedback on this approach. Do you feel like 
> `gcloud app deploy` and `dev_appserver.py .` are enough?  Or are there 
> other reasons you want to keep using `goapp`?
>
> Is this just a matter of unclear documentation?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 1:21 AM, Michael Amie <michae...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Tim,
>>
>> You are not insane. I have noticed this as well w/ respect to the missing 
>> executable bit set on at least one of the goapps (and if I recall 
>> correctly, when I looked into this a month or so ago), several other 
>> scripts / binaries weren't set to executable as well, post-installation.
>>
>> As you mention, I got the impression the stand-along "go SDK" was being 
>> phased out / deprecated and this was getting rolled into the cloud SDK as a 
>> module / component for it.
>>
>> It seems like they didn't test the new installer or something before 
>> rolling it out, and based on the combo of 1. The broken install and 2. The 
>> doublespeak of the documentation, I'd wager there is some sort of 
>> miscommunication or something between teams / departments going on right 
>> now about what's going on during this transition.
>>
>> I'd love to see Google actually get all their documentation updated / 
>> synced with the One True New Way and it would be good if they tried running 
>> this new installer on a few Mac OS versions to see if it actually works.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Michael
>>
>> On Saturday, April 8, 2017 at 8:57:29 AM UTC-7, Tim Becker wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry if I'm missing something obvious, but it seems that the 
>>> documenation is very unclear about this and was just recently changed with 
>>> no clear migration instructions:
>>>
>>>    - since recently (~ last week sometime) the prefered way to install 
>>>    Golang support seems to be via the "Google Cloud SDK" (vs the "original 
>>> App 
>>>    Engine SDK for Go")
>>>    - previously, the `goapp` tool was a central part of my workflow in 
>>>    order to deal with the dependency on the completely outdated 1.6 version 
>>> of 
>>>    Go required by appengine
>>>    - using gcloud and installing go support via `gcloud components 
>>>    install app-engine-go` gets me two `goapp`s:
>>>    -  ./google-cloud-sdk/platform/google_appengine/goapp
>>>       -  ./google-cloud-sdk/platform/google_appengine/goroot/bin/goapp
>>>    - the first of which is a python script with no executable bit set, 
>>>    and neither of which are in the PATH set up by the install.sh script
>>>    - running, eg. 
>>>    `./google-cloud-sdk/platform/google_appengine/goroot/bin/goapp test` 
>>>    results in the following error:
>>>       - `go: cannot find GOROOT directory: 
>>>       
>>> /private/var/folders/bs/nn10qt5j32g25qwgd77wkcyh00d7l1/T/appengine/go_appengine/goroot
>>>    
>>> Now there are `gopath` and `goroot` dirs in the 
>>> `plattform/google_appengine` directory and I'm tempted to set the 
>>> corresponding environment variables to point to those directories, because 
>>> at least `goroot` seems to have all the necessary appengine dependencies 
>>> install in it. But this leaves me wondering, where my app should reside. 
>>> And dealing with appengine/gcloud/whatever it's called today in this manner 
>>> feels just like "trying out random stuff"
>>>
>>> The README contains completely outdated info from 2008. And the online 
>>> docs only seems to focus on using the "classic" SDK (e.g. 
>>> https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/standard/go/tools/localunittesting/
>>> )
>>>
>>> Is there any obvious documenation that I'm missing? Am I the only person 
>>> encountering these problems?
>>>
>>>
>>> (btw. I'm using OSX)
>>>
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