I forgot you where the best person in the world. Maybe you should try
reading my message before you get rude and try to make yourself sound
superior. 2 years is not a long time. Do you think it was fair to
a business man who paid thousands of dollars to a developer to build and
application using the Google map API with an enterprise license. Do you
think it was fair to that developer that lost that client because the
developer was told that Google was not killing the API and had great plans
for it over the next year. Their sales team claimed they were adding mobile
support and it was going to be a great year for the API. Then Google never
added any working mobile support and killed the API a few months later.
Rendering the brand new application useless and forcing the Business man to
start from scratch and pay for work that was already done once. I am sure
this business man is going to call up the developer and say hey remember
when you got me to use that thing that is getting depreciated can you
suggest another one and redo everything. . .I will be happy to pay you
again.

Not sure what you mean by "Also I don't know where this illusion about
Microsoft comes from, they have dumped tons of projects, want to talk about
a sinking ship, their online division is currently bleeding a billion
dollars a quarter." "Their online division" is pretty vague. Not sure if
you are insinuating that Microsoft is loosing money but they made a net
income of 28 billion last year and 25 Billion in 2010. The only sinking I
see is if they put all their money on a ship and tried to float it.

My illusion that Microsoft has more focus on developers comes from the fact
that they do. They made 2.9 billion in advertising and marketing last
quarter compared to the Server & Tools segment which posted well over 4
billion. Whereas Google's profit is made up of 99% ad dollars.

My crazy illusion also comes from the support they give on MSDN and asp.net.
Like I said in my last email they have several tutorials, walk-troughs and
video examples for every level of developer. These cover every technology
they make or use inside of the tools. They are created by employees who are
lead developers and are updated constantly.

It also comes from the fact when they communicate to developers inside
their web forums on both asp.net and MSDN they personally answer questions
and mark answers that are correct. Changes and additions are discussed in
these forums so that they can get a good understanding how these request
will be used. They don't wait until x amount of people think that a request
is needed they consider they usefulness of the modification.


I am not mad that they killed the Flash API rather the way they did it. I
would also not use the Google JS API because the performance is horrible
compared to all of the Bing Map APIs. I wouldn't use any other API they
have unless their is a specific reason to. Not because I am sensitive and
they hurt my feelings but because of their history and Goggle's lack of
attention to developers.
Google is quickly becoming Apple.


On Jan 7, 2012 3:38 PM, "Jonathan Wagner" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I understand you are angry about them depreciating the flash api, but 2
> years is a long time in technology. I am sure you can find some angry
> cobalt developers. Also I don't know where this illusion about microsoft
> comes from, they have dumped tons of projects, want to talk about a sinking
> ship, their online division is currently bleeding a billion dollars a
> quarter. In reference to their apis, the google Javascript API has always
> been under development and predates the flash API significantly.
>
> Yes Pamela Fox was exceptional, and she was very unique, but when I talked
> with her at Google IO even she said, no one uses the flash API when I asked
> why the flash API wasn't getting styled maps at the same time. This is
> technology dude, if you think microsoft is any different you're
> really delusional. You might not be aware of this but Google's flash API
> was actually acquired from the same guys which gave bing it's first flash
> support (umapper).
>
> Two years is more then enough time for a depreciation period, and who
> knows there might be a good reason for them to pull it out of depreciation.
> Whenever you use third party anything there is always the chance that this
> could happen. I will admit, that I do think the depreciation was brought on
> about 1-2 years too early, ces't la vie. All my future projects are using
> the Google Javascript API, I am not really concerned about depreciation of
> that API, and so far it looks like their quotas will actually be cheaper
> then bing's.
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