Hi All, I have good news!!! Pamela has allowed me to continue developing and displaying my application using its current "Scrapping" method until the API comes out.
I have put the Application back on Google Code and will shortly be releasing an update which fixes the Proxy Authentication issue. Thanks, Oliver Baker On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 11:38 AM, kim3er <rich...@dogma.co.uk> wrote: > > Thanks for clearing that up, I was a bit taken back by the use of the > word illegal for scraping websites. I suspect that we will start to > see the nature of scraping change in the near future as websites > become the API. Pages written in valid XHTML/HTML 5 with meaningful > naming conventions (like micro formats). I don't think scraping can be > a dirty word anymore. But I can understand the need for a company like > Google to control where and how the bandwidth is used. > > Rich > > On Oct 14, 4:11 am, "pamela (Google Employee)" <pamela...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Sure, good point, let me clarify, though please keep in mind that I'm not > a > > lawyer... > > > > According to the Google Wave terms of use, it is not permitted to > "modify, > > adapt, translate, or reverse engineer any portion of the Service unless > > expressly authorized". In Oliver's prototype, he essentially reverse > > engineered the client display mechanism to extract the content. You can > read > > more of the policies at: > http://wave.google.com/help/wave/program_policies.html > > > > Once we have an API to let you programmatically extract the content -- > which > > is something we're working on -- then that API could be used to build > this > > prototype without having to reverse engineer. Another thing to consider, > > more in the wave protocol effort, would be a client/server protocol -- > but > > things are early there at the moment. > > > > - pamela > > > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Joe Developer < > joe.d.develo...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:42 AM, pamela (Google Employee) < > > > pamela...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> Hey Oliver- > > >> I responded to you offline, but will also respond here to keep the > thread > > >> in the forum. > > > > >> I assumed that was how you were doing this, but wanted to give you a > > >> chance to explain. It is generally considered illegal to "scrape" the > HTML > > >> of webpages that do not grant explicit permission for that. That is > why > > >> webpages provide APIs- so that developers can legally use content. > > > > >> Really? Generally considered illegal? I would appreciate a link that > > > documents such a finding. I would imagine that google search results > would > > > be fairly sparsely populated if they could only include those pages > that > > > include explicit permission for google to scrape. > > > > > I would advise on waiting until we offer some sort of Google data API > to > > >> distribute a program like this. > > > > >> - pamela > > > > >> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Oliver Baker <ocba...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > >>> How dare you Andrey! > > > > >>> I do not store any of your information what so ever excluding the > last > > >>> Wave server you selected. > > > > >>> Any Login information you enter is immediatly put into the Google > Wave > > >>> Login page to log the application into the Google Wave login page. > > > > >>> To enter your login details on Version 2 (Sorry I made this a little > > >>> stupidly) you will need to left click on the Notify Icon or right > > >>> click the icon, go into the Waves item, then click the login to see > > >>> your waves button. > > > > >>> Also, make sure you have Google Chrome Frame installed on your > > >>> computer for this to work. I am still working out the bugs. > > > > >>> On Oct 14, 10:07 am, Andrey Fedorov <anfedo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>> > Uhoh, I hope you guys are at least running antivirus as you run > exe's > > >>> you > > >>> > downloaded online? > > >>> > - Andrey > > > > >>> > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Scott Breakall < > break...@gmail.com> > > >>> wrote: > > > > >>> > > I've downloaded the exe, but am I missing something? There's > nowhere > > >>> > > for me to enter my wave credentials? > > > > >>> > > ~Scott~ > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Wave API" group. To post to this group, send email to google-wave-api@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-wave-api+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-wave-api?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
