I rather prefer formal, concrete documents from the steering committee. Keeping all the things just as "informal" make the project feels like a school project, with no commitment to quality and deadlines. I can't take a project seriously when a documents says there would be a release 02/DEC and on month later someone says "Sometime in January after people are back from vacation." - why on earth the vacations weren't considered in the release plan?
That's how that strange conversations about GWT being dead or alive begin. We need a concrete schedule. We need a concrete release plan. We need something strong enough to trust - not informal conversations. That's how I feel about the current situation. It's real hard to convince my team to work with GWT in new projects, and the lack of concrete and reliable information from the steering committee about the releases doesn't help at all. On Friday, January 3, 2014 12:58:20 AM UTC-2, Colin Alworth wrote: > > Another thought: Christian Sedilek, Dan Kurka, and myself can also be > found pretty frequently in ##gwt on irc.freenode.net for a more informal > discussion - I'd love to see more steering committee members hang out > there, even if just idling most of the time, and chatting once in a while. > > Keeping these discussions as 'conversations' rather than as written > documents probably helps them to stay a little more informal - rather than > feeling like we're describing our collective vision for what GWT will be in > 6, 12, 18 months, we get to be a little more interactive to hear about what > people need GWT to be, and we get to float some ideas out there. From my > perspective, that was an important step at the SF conf, getting us all to > hear about concerns around SDM - since that panel discussion, I've switched > my local development to about 80% sdm to try to come up with more concrete > ways to improve how we document it and encourage people to use it. In > Frankfurt, we fielded fewer online questions and got more from the room, > and seemed to center around how GWT will change going forward - which > browsers can be dropped, how we might continue to make Dev Mode work or > otherwise keep in-IDE debugging. > > On Thursday, January 2, 2014 9:56:39 AM UTC-6, Daniel Kurka wrote: >> >> Just an idea: We could think about doing a hangout maybe every quarter >> with a pre populated moderator. >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Michael Prentice <spla...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> That would be great. I know that they are busy with the EU conference >>> this week, but there were a lot more questions to be addressed. I already >>> gave some feedback that we might need to expand the panel Q&A's next year >>> (either split them by some topics or extend the time). >>> >>> >>> On Monday, December 16, 2013 3:58:07 PM UTC-5, Boris Brudnoy wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> The closing session of the GWT.create 2013 US saw a panel of the GWT >>>> Steering Committee members answer attendee questions. It so happened that >>>> the issue of the changing debugging tools hijacked (most of) the >>>> conversation but there were plenty more good questions the attendees >>>> entered on the Moderator page for the panel: https://www.google.com/ >>>> moderator/#7/e=21396f. >>>> >>>> I am wondering if perhaps the Steering Committee members could find >>>> time to address the remaining questions in writing and, for example, post >>>> it on the G+ community page? >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>> http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit-Contributors >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "GWT Contributors" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to google-web-toolkit-contributors+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> . >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Google Germany GmbH >> *Dienerstr. 12* >> *80331 München* >> >> Registergericht und -nummer: Hamburg, HRB 86891 >> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Hamburg >> Geschäftsführer: Graham Law, Katherine Stephens >> > -- http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit-Contributors --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "GWT Contributors" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to google-web-toolkit-contributors+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
