@Ivan Markov Please invest some time to SDBG, it's great tool, very 
convenient. Despite of Chrome dev.tools, I still prefer SDBG as more 
natural for java developer.

On Thursday, May 31, 2018 at 6:02:43 AM UTC-7, Ivan Markov wrote:
>
> Don't you think there could've been 2x or even 3x as much people working 
> on porting GWT2 stuff over to J2CL if J2CL was released in the first place? 
> For one, releasing J2CL could've made me reconsider how much time I invest 
> in my own SDBG pet project. Which - at the current situation is exactly 
> zero. Or whether to invest time in the abandoned typescript2java effort, 
> which would bring seamless JSInterop with gazillions of .d.ts'd JS 
> libraries without the need to manually code JSInterop bindings...
>
> Say what you want, but 3 months since my original rant that at the top of 
> this thread, the "basic Bazel building issues" of Goktug seem still to be a 
> roadblock and J2CL is still nowhere to be seen.
>
> ... and then we had Daniel planning to write a book on J2CL end of 2016, 
> remember? Come on guys, it is Q3 2018 now... I might now agree with Learner 
> Evermore on his points 2) to 5), but with point 1) he nailed it:
> "1. The backing company backed off but kept the crucial new piece secret - 
> J2CL."
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 30, 2018 at 6:07:25 PM UTC+3, Frank Hossfeld wrote:
>>
>> That's not really true. There are a lot of people working on the GWT 
>> module, getting them out of GWT and moving them to standalone artifacts. 
>> Doing that, they replace JSNI with JsInterop, replace generators, etc. This 
>> is all done, to get GWT 2 ready for GWT 3. And if you want to see something 
>> existing in GWT 3, you can ask vertispan to do the job. 
>>
>> With the knowledge about the things, that will change with GWT 3 / J2CL, 
>> I was able to make mvp4g ready for GWT 3 / J2CL. I replaced the generator 
>> with APT and remove the dependency to any GWT classes. I created a sample 
>> application based on the new version (mvp4g2) and Elemental 2. And yes, it 
>> works with J2CL. 
>>
>> And, keep in mind, applications written in GWT in 2010 still work. What 
>> was the favorite JS framework at that time? I don't remember.
>>
>

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