yea emperors rule the roost in all "shining projects" but ants destiny cant always be written from the same shining pen
ruptures create history so cant predict what will happen in i would like to belive in ants and their creation of history let the emperors dream their own On 6/21/08, ahmed rafeek j <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > asma's peom was about ant's productivity. emperors know how to make > the ants proud in their jobs. :( > > it is unlikely to vote down the shining 'impulsiveness' in gy as > claimed by damodar prasad. :) > > On 6/21/08, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > fired.....tishoooooommmmmmmmmm.... > > > > GREENYOUTH SHINING!! > > > > once such a simlar campaign in India had a long fan followng > > but the people of India voted it down > > > > so instead of this blah blah about "greatness" (read Asma's poem) > > let us come down to earth and do the blah blah blah blah > > > > best > > > > > > > > > > On 6/21/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Asma. > > > > > > I can imagine you will be laughing out loudly just glancing through the > > mails in the thread "please approve asma". That is green youth. > > > > > > I am not idealizing. But then the impulsiveness & immediacy in recahing > > out to each other is exciting. > > > But I've not a seen a welcome like this anywhere. > > > > > > Even the above statement will not go uncontested. > > > > > > need not wait...fire > > > > > > damodar > > > > > > > > > > > > On 6/20/08, Asma Siddiqui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks Anil. > > > > > > > > Asma Siddiqui > > > > > > > > On 20 Jun, 17:55, "ranju radha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > dear damodar,... > > > > > > > > > > read more ยป > > > > > > > > > > but is s not me who asked " *is anyone forcefully keeping you here? > "* > > > > > *i think there is no need for me tell u that personal is political* > > > > > ** > > > > > * i m just replying, not personally attckng any one. * > > > > > *but what can i do if u feel so....?* > > > > > ** > > > > > *I never calld anyone "chamelon"* > > > > > *if that was not a personal atttack, then i would like to say that > > HITLER s > > > > > much better option dear.......* > > > > > ** > > > > > *and thanks for informing me my "problem"* > > > > > *i would definetly consult u in future also ( dont take it > otherwise. > > it s > > > > > friendly comment only)* > > > > > *no personal issue with u or any other greenwallah here* > > > > > ** > > > > > *dont wanna make u dig more and waste ur presious time* > > > > > *so best wishes!!* > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > On 6/20/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *CD revoltuon/ padanakouthukam---Night vigial and press > conferences- > > so ur > > > > > > problem lies else where. * > > > > > > > > > > > If someone says "its really cruel to be not cruel here"--- for me > > > > > > it sounded like adolf hitler's most infamous quote: "I do not see > > why man > > > > > > should not be just as cruel as nature."- *Adolf Hitler* > > > > > > *I will reflect on my errors. * > > > > > > ** > > > > > > *Frankly,let me ask: waht pleasuer you derive from such persoanl > and > > > > > > demoralizing attacks. But happy to note that you get such wanton > > pleasures. > > > > > > * > > > > > > ** > > > > > > *prasad* > > > > > > ** > > > > > > ** > > > > > > ** > > > > > > ** > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > On 6/20/08, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> the green people should respct a chamelon. it s not an abnormal > > animal > > > > > >> dear > > > > > >> for the those who "refuse to grow" (typical of kerala) shall be > > proud of > > > > > >> not being a chamelon > > > > > >> but chamelon survives bz of that > > > > > >> and it s not just a patanakuatukam > > > > > >> think beyond CD revolution > > > > > > > > > > >> in a forum like this wher one needs to attach > disclaimers always > > > > > >> otherwise as in night vigil one needs to call press conferences > > later and > > > > > >> disclaim..... > > > > > > > > > > >> *>>>is anyone forcefully keeping you here?* > > > > > > > > > > >> dude there are better ways of destruction displayed by fascists > > > > > >> but they never asked this question (perhaps.... who knows??!!) > > > > > >> i feel gujarat may be a better place than mallustan.... > > > > > >> Hail Damodar !!! > > > > > > > > > > >> On 6/19/08, Dileep Raj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>> *Temporality/Identity* > > > > > >>> ** > > > > > >>> members in this group inhabit multiple temporalities( depending > on > > their > > > > > >>> time of entry and 'actual' locations). Somebody at some times > > > > > >>> demand a linear homogenous (modern) time through historicizing > the > > very > > > > > >>> group. > > > > > > > > > > >>> Is it inevitable that we should archive all instantaneous > > responses? Is > > > > > >>> it ethical? > > > > > > > > > > >>> Also, is it ethical to ask for formal explanations? If even a > > single > > > > > >>> member has the feeling > > > > > >>> of being excluded shouldn't others ( moderators included) take > > that > > > > > >>> feeling seriously? > > > > > > > > > > >>> what is the point in claiming identity for contestaions/ > > interventions in > > > > > >>> the group at different > > > > > >>> 'times' ? > > > > > > > > > > >>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:34 PM, damodar prasad < > > > > > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>> On 6/19/08, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> yes true to the core of Indian nationalism. u can put > anything > > (as > > > > > >>>>> claimed by ) > > > > > >>>>> very accommodative and democratic > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> *that s why even if the child leaves kerala in the 60s or 70s > it > > > > > >>>>> utters "GREATNESS"* > > > > > >>>>> *loooonggg live...!!* > > > > > > > > > > >>>> *This child is like Gunter Grass Tin Drum Child :OSCAR, who > > refuses to > > > > > >>>> grow. * > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> and regarding cruelity, *it s really cruel to be not cruel > > here!!* > > > > > >>>>> green or grey, left or right > > > > > >>>>> we r bound by binaries, though as ahmed claims that WE all > > discuss > > > > > >>>>> post-modernism > > > > > > > > > > >>>> *very philosophical.pls. parapharse. * > > > > > >>>> *by the way, is anyone forcefully keeping you here? * > > > > > >>>> *such violations of rights we wont allow* > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> *dude, i m no modern/progressive don* > > > > > >>>>> *no such claims. * > > > > > > > > > > >>>> *Buddy, attach a disclaimer always * > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> *but patcha matramalla niramayullathennu ariyam athramatra* > > > > > > > > > > >>>> *renju says he knows not only green but several other colours. > > renju, > > > > > >>>> have u seen chamelon changing colors?* > > > > > >>>> ** > > > > > >>>> *prasad * > > > > > > > > > > >>>> best > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> On 6/19/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > > >>>>>> From: Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >>>>>> Date: Jun 19, 2008 9:56 PM > > > > > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [GreenYouth] Re: please approve Asma as a > member! > > > > > >>>>>> To: damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> thats precisely what i intended pointing out > > > > > >>>>>> identities are fluid and thats healthy > > > > > >>>>>> i am not apologetic for where i was born and what my > > credentials are > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> On 19/06/2008, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> moreover, > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> imagine the kind of cruelty (at the same time appearing as > > very > > > > > >>>>>>> modoernist and progressive) , hyocracy slotting child in > > nationalist > > > > > >>>>>>> category. > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Deep inside, "hollow hollow man".. > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> damodar > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> On 6/19/08, damodar prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> booby, > > > > > >>>>>>>> lucky you.. no baggage...how free ur now, just imagine.. > > really > > > > > >>>>>>>> lucky > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> prasad > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> On 6/19/08, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> what about the child from nowhere? I leftKerala when I > was > > > > > >>>>>>>>> born... and where do I stand... and right now I do not > where > > I belong > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On 19/06/2008, damodar prasad < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On 6/19/08, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> child from Pakistan: Pakistan is great! > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> child from India: India is great!! > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> child from China: China is great!!! > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> *child from "communist Kerala": China is great (?!)* > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Dear Renju, > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> when did u leave Kerala? Late 60s or mid 70s. > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Child from Kerala says (period wise) > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> 1980- 1989 - east germany, poland and soviet union is > great > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> 1990-2000 - (post tianmen) China & cuba is bountiful > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> 2000-2006- Venezuela is as beautiful as allapuzha > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> 2006-08- US without hyde act is the promised land > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> We all belive that We r the end of life > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> so We are GREAT.. > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> great!!!! > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> best > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On 6/19/08, Bobby Kunhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> sending u a personal mail, > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to believe I understand ascriptive > > politics... may > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> be i am wrong > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> but for me green youth seems more democratic than grey > > youth in > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> terms of the discussion > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> i like warriers challenging my notions, which are of > > course > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> subjective from where i come from..... and i do not > like > > to believe i am > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> right... in the sense of a unversal truth that defines > > hegemony > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> for me the personal is always political and have > suffered > > thanks > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to that and in a masochistic sense, i enjoy that > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Best > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 19/06/2008, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "CONFESSED" and "ALLEGATIONS" > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> just try to reverse it, then u will get the picture, > > dear > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ahmed. > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and no offence intndd.... > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> let the "piece--ful" co-existnce continue in the > group > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> let new members join > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> let those who r afraid of long mails run away > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> let MODERATIONS continue as we all believe in law and > > order > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> after all who s above the LAW !! > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/19/08, ahmed rafeek j <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hi bobby, > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing much...ranjuradha's introductory session to > a > > new > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> member to > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> gy, bashing the whole group left n right with words > > like > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anti-modernist, romantic, green environmental..etc. > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> though he confessed to afthab that there is no clear > > cut rules > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> n > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> regulations and he was not ready to substantiate his > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> allegations on > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> anivar's request, i didnt know until now that all > these > > words > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> were > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> filthy!!! > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> regards, > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ahmed rafeek j > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Bobby Kunhu < > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > excuse me, but I seem to hve missed something - is > > this a > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> war on credibility > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > between green and grey youth, couched in the > > languages its > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> couched in? > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > am i missing the trees for the woods? > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > can someone give me some picture please? > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On 19/06/2008, ranju radha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> It will be good if you can point clear > examples > > before > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this branding > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> effort > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> WE ARE ALIVE BECAUSE OF HISTORY > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> WE ARE DEAD BECAUSE OF HISTORY > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> SO BLAME IT and like T V Chandran, say > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "ormakalundayirikkanam"!! > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> cant understand why Dalit/Muslim politics > should > > be > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> modernist, > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> anti-romantic and red > (non-green) environmental > > ? > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> there s no specifc rules and regulations, as far > as > > i know > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> but...... this is a biggggg- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Green Youth Movement" group. 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