> Bill Pringlemeir wrote: >> English is a weird language. I think the "already has" form is a >> least the more common usage; it also seems to be correct to me.
On Sun, 6 Jun 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Google is 2:6 against you. I think you can use both forms but > "already has" is only used to emphasize the "already" (mostly in > spoken English). If you replace "has" with "have" both forms are > almost even. If you want to be 100% you'll probably have to add a > "got" anyway. The google references to "has already" are phrases like "The US *HAS ALREADY LOST* the war", "The 2004 Election *HAS ALREADY BEEN RIGGED*", "Eternity *HAS ALREADY BEGUN*". There is something called the past conditional verb. It is something like "have been", "have done", "have coded", etc. Most of these google references are past conditionals of a verb. You can replace the past conditional with the past tense. Eg, "The US *ALREADY LOST* the war", "The 2004 Election *WAS ALREADY RIGGED*", and "Eternity *ALREADY BEGAN*". The google references of "already has" are like "Tools the FEC *ALREADY HAS*", "Your computer *ALREADY HAS* an Operating", "What if Your Teen *ALREADY HAS* a Problem With Drugs?" In this case the "has" by itself is the verb. A noun or noun phrase should follow, like "70% of our slots". I think they are two different uses/meanings. I also think that Goggle has bad grammar! >> However, I am not a grammar teacher so I could be wrong. > Neither, am I. It's not my native language, either. Well I am a native speaker; how good, I don't know... you can be a native speaker and be near ill-literate. My concern is that people, using LimeWire, BearShare, etc., might see GTKG sending this message and get the wrong impression about the code. It is very good code so I wouldn't want a surface detail like that to give the wrong impression of an excellent program. >> If the text is free form, maybe a better form would be "Vendor >> would exceed %d%% of our slots". > Maybe, we should make this configurable. ;) Oh god no! I was just suggesting a phrase that might be friendly to native and non-native English speakers alike. I am guessing that the change was because "has already" seems better. I was thinking of something that would sound good to everyone that didn't involve the word "has" and "already", which are over-used so it is easy to confuse a meaning when they are used. "Vendor exceeds %d%% of our slots" is the most direct, but it changes the meaning slightly. I wouldn't be surprised if I was wrong. Even though English is my native language it is still really confusing. I am pretty sure I am right, but I would be more confident if someone else could verify this... Hmmm. I will ask my wife... she seem to think the same (and she likes it when I am wrong). I also did some web searching. "http://webster.commnet.edu/grammar/"; is relevant, although it may put you to sleep. And I guarantee that I have made some mistake in this message! btw. That was my only nit in the many recent changes. Although I glossed over the GTK2 changes, because I don't know a lot about GTK (or at least less than 'C'). fwiw, Bill Pringlemeir. ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the new InstallShield X. >From Windows to Linux, servers to mobile, InstallShield X is the one installation-authoring solution that does it all. Learn more and evaluate today! http://www.installshield.com/Dev2Dev/0504 _______________________________________________ Gtk-gnutella-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gtk-gnutella-devel
