Actually, voiceover on the mac works with many other applications besides just 
the apple ones, I use the mac all the time and it's great.
On Sep 1, 2010, at 7:54 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

> I'm not sold on the idea of a screen reader being included in the OS,
> although I admit Apple has done a good job. My problem with this approach is
> that there's no incentive for Apple to support anything other than Apple
> products. What if I want to use Firefox instead of Safari or a media player
> other than iTunes or a third party email client or PIM or so on.
> 
> I also think JAWS and Window Eyes are vastly more robust than Narrator. I
> would not have the job I have today if it wasn't for JAWS and or Window
> Eyes.
> 
> Since the original poster doesn't talk about the changes they'd like to see,
> or how they could make Window Eyes better, it's impossible to know what
> they're talking about. After working in the software development field for
> almost 25 years, I'm certain GW Micro has some talented and dedicated
> programmers working on Window Eyes. I'm also certain they've overcome quite
> a few technical challenges in the years they've developed and supported a
> Windows based screen reader. I'm sure someone could come in and make some
> superficial changes on top of the base that's already there, but that's
> doing a disservice to the years of development that's already gone into
> Window Eyes.
> 
> Although I'm sure GW Micro has some business savvyness, I wouldn't go as far
> to use the terms "exploit" or "conspiracy".
> 
> Just my $0.02, if it's even worth that much.
> 
> --
> Christopher
> [email protected]
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kim Lingo [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 5:30 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [GW-Booksense] Re: GW Micro Responds to the Future of Screen
> Readers Discussion Panel Questions
> 
> Then why haven't you come out with something better and cheaper?
> Kim Lingo
> At 03:01 PM 9/1/2010, you wrote:
>> "GW Micro believes that having a free screen reader as part of the 
>> operating system does a disservice to Blind computer users."
>> 
>> I thought this to be a hypocritical viewpoint.  Somewhat charlatanistic.
>> It is highly prejudicial to exclude low income users, or encourage 
>> an over priced payment plan like some sort of layaway.  The price is 
>> highly debatable.  It's seems to have to many zeroes.
>> I think it's a typo, but no one seems to see it. (pun intended)
>> The program itself is not even practical, nor signifigantly better 
>> than the windows narrotor for common use.
>> 
>> Perhaps I should write the Obama administration to see what he 
>> thinks about GW micros position on affordable pricing of screen 
>> readers for the blind/disabled.
>> If the president tested Window Eyes head to head with "real" 
>> software for the blind, he would have to "keep it real" and tell you 
>> exactly as I have.  If not then we have a conspiracy on our hands, 
>> where the blind are being held back on purpose for extra 
>> profits.  Or possibly for backdoor code abilities that rely on 
>> accessibility to mask their true intent.
>> I will not allow exploitation of the blind, in any case.
>> 
>> Window Eyes could be much better within a couple months of work.
>> I mean several times better than it is right now.  I know this for a 
>> fact because I am a developer that has done it.  I'd crumple WE, and 
>> throw it in the trash if I were blind.
>> GW probably knows it too, but keeps it secret from the users, 
>> because they just don't want to spend the time required to fully 
>> wrap their heads arround it.  Or they can't, yet still want to enjoy 
>> the positive cash flow.  The price shows the greed, not crafsmanship.
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