Okay, Jim.  The Window-Eyes 7 beta 2 just went boom.  I launched NVDA, which
seemed

to have uncharacteristically limited functionality, and Alt-tabbed to the
open message

and pressed escape, which closed it.  Then I Alt-tabbed to Outlook 2003
itself and

pressed Alt-F4 and Outlook closed.  Window-Eyes, however, did not come back
talking.

I tried to shut Window-Eyes off through task manager, but NVDA's limited
functionality

would not let me read the list items, so I tried to shut WE down by guess
and by

God, aiming for Wineyes.exe and Bdisplay.exe per Mike Lawler's instructions.
Thinking

I had accomplished the shut down, I pressed the WE startup hot key,
Control-Alt-W,

and was greeted with the XP exclamation ding and the message that
Window-Eyes was

already running.  I pressed Enter on the default OK button and figured that
was the

end of that dialog.  When I tried again to kill WE with task manager, I got
caught

in a loop of Window-Eyes is already running dialogs and End task dialogs.  I
tried

to restart Windows, only to discover that the system was partially locked.

After the one-finger euthanasia, I resurrected the machine and then launched
Outlook

and wrote this message to you.

As I stated in a previous message, the blow-up occurred immediately after I
pressed

Enter to open a message.  Whatever is going on seems to wait until I've
opened a

number of messages.  Since I was able to close Outlook with Alt-F4, I
presume Outlook

was still responding.  In my experience, an unresponsive program will not
close with

the Alt-F4 command and must be dealt with from within task manager.  I could
be wrong

though.

I forgot to mention that there are 512 mb of ram in this machine.  I noticed
that

there are five scripts running.  The only scripts in this beta are the ones
that

were already in the program.  No extras.

Now what?

Lou N.

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Go to

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and sign the drill here, drill now petition.

Make yourself heard!

Did you know that there is a joint Cuban-Chinese effort to explore for oil
and natural

gas 60 miles off the Florida coast?  Why is it OK for other countries to
"ruin the

environment" but it is not OK for the US to responsibly tap our own
resources!

From: jim grimsby Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 5:04 PM

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Cc: [email protected]

Subject: RE: Beta 2

No what is happening here I am almost sure is that window-eyes is not
reading outlook

gpf errors as it should.  So window-eyes stops speaking nothing happens.  I
am sure

if you started a screen reader like nvda closed outlook witch you will find
is not

responding that window-eyes speech will come back again.  Could you test
this and

let us know if it works?   So the bug is actually window-eyes does not read
gpf errors

as it should.

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 2:17 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: RE: Beta 2

I completely forgot to mention this.  Both blow-ups occurred while in
Outlook 2003

immediately after I pressed Enter to open a message.  Some messages I
receive are

plain text, some are html.  Maybe browse mode is the culprit?  <shrug>.
Maybe Reid

and Outlook 03 are partners in crime?

Lou N.



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