Good point.
I do know that.
But I still submit that scripts offered by a gwmicro company employee
and having the company logo, or mark or licensing inside, i actually
took a look inside that script and there's a huge comments area about
nothing but copy write and licensing and all that, well, I think that
was the hotspot script actually.
But it's bad karma for company scripts to imply doing something they don't do.
So save face and cover your butt by stating that it's only a test
example, not a completely working one.
I think that's very constructive and not negative at all.
But anyway,
At 04:44 PM 9/29/2008, you wrote:
Chris
the philosophy behind Window eyes scripting promotes the very
opposite of your argument. Remember, window-eyes scripting allows
you to use any old language, so long as you have COM automation in
place. Think of it as your kitchen. You have your knives, pots,
pans, the cooker,, etc. etc. What you do with them is not the
business of the manufacturers. You might be a damn good
cook/programmer, or a very bad one.
the money you paid for your window eyes license wasn't for
individual scripts. You paid for a functionaly extensive and
extensible software application that, among many things, allows you
to write scripts to perform functions that would otherwise be
difficult or impossible to achieve with set files.
John
That's why I plunk down my hard-earned money so that the supposed
experts can do it for me 'smile'.
I'll give praise when it's deserved, and criticism when it's warranted.
Do you fix all your own plumbing, and electrical issues, or work on
your own car?
Did you build your own computer, or your own house?
Bet you hired someone to do some of those things.
I know that software makers are in a little different league, they
can't account for all the variable that are on everybody's machines.
But still, why is any level of sloppiness acceptable for software,
and notfor other stuff?
If you were having issues, you'd be screaming louder than anybody I bet.
So let's ease off of the self riteousness. a bit buddy.
Peace.
At 03:53 PM 9/29/2008, you wrote:
Well, here is one for size. Why don't you spend your time more
productively by learning how to script and come up with your own
safe 100% functional add/remove script?
You demonstrate impresive insight into software design and
debugging. I'm sure Window eyes scripting would be a piece of cake for you!
Go on, as we say on this side of the pond, let's have you put your
money where your mouth is!
John
At 21:16 29/09/2008, you wrote:
You bet, I don't kiss anyone's hind end, I tell it like it is,
and i actually am on a list dominated by jaws users and even
folks who work for fs, some of whom are very good friends of mine.
Most folks here don't know anything outside of window-eyes and
have no idea of what really goes on over there.
But when Jaws acts up, or there's trouble I write to them, and I
have gotten good support from my friends who work for Fs.
So please don't patronize 'grin'.
I'm glad you are having no troubles, so just let the rest of us
who are get about trying to get them resolved.
You can cheer us on from the cheer-leader squad.
Peace right back at ya man.
At 02:06 PM 9/29/2008, you wrote:
It's not a question of being scared to speak out. some of us,
no, most of us try to take a constructive approach rather than
lash out blindly. Moreover, some of us are not having these
issues of which you complain. Have you considered that possibility?
I wonder if we would be so brave on a Freedom scientific list.
The lawyers would be coming down on you like a ton of bricks
quicker than you could say Jihad for Windows!
Peace
At 19:51 29/09/2008, you wrote:
Pardon me, but I think people have a right to be
concerned is scripts don't work.
After all, that was the big push in the last development cycle,
scripting pushed most other concerns to the back burner.
So now if most of the company scripts are having problems, and
people are concerned, well, they paid good money to be.
Removeing the script will certianly fix the problem, but that's
like removing your eye if you get something in it 'grin'.
We're seeing a prime example of a little company who bit off
more than they could chew and didn't give them selves enough time to chew it.
I've more or less come to grips with we, using it for the
things it works well for.
Web surfing, as long as you don't mind loosing your place a
lot, but I'm used to we.
it's good for exploring stuff, and mousing around.
The scripts mostly work when they're not generating errors.
I don't feel warm and fuzzy unless I have 5 or 6 errors a day
but if the boys and girls are doing their job, this is helping them.
I take great delight in making smart-ass comments when I send
in bug reports.
But when we makes me mad, I have other alternatives.
Some folks here don't and I'd be mad too if my main means of
access wasn't doing what I needed.
So trying to keep a balance between productively trying to
squash bugs, and airing grievances, and being decent about it,
and giving the guys a chance, all in all, I gotta to say, when
someone's paid out good money, they expect results.
I don't think they know entirely what they're doing yet,
because scripting is so new for we, so we're having some growing pains.
But it is frustrating as hell when your trying to get work done.
God I do wish we didn't get rushed out the door so fast, you
know a lot of people are afraid to speak up, but I've gotten
some interesting private emails about this and that.
I get in trouble for running my mouth, but better to die on
your feet and live on your knees.
So I tell all my students, and fellow we users, call them up,
write them, let them know what you need and what ain't workin
that's the only way things will ever change.
If a blind man never stood up and fought for what they needed,
we'd still be out in the street selling pencils and begging for aums.
Some of us still aren't that much further along.
But as long as we are paying gwmicro salaries, we have a right
to ask, and to question, and yes, indeed to respectfully
complain when it is called for.
Thank you, and soap box session over.
At 12:09 PM 9/29/2008, you wrote:
Why don't you just remove the script instead of engaging in
endless debate?
Regards,
Robert
----- Original Message ----- From: "wayne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Sam bushman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: Add remove script problem
his add remove is junk.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam bushman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: Add remove script problem
You say:
The Add/Remove script was really just a proof of concept, so there may
Was this mentioned any where before people started using it?
What other scripts are not for real?
Thanks
Sam
----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: Add remove script problem
The Add/Remove script was really just a proof of concept,
so there may be issues. All it does is read in the
uninstall keys in the registry, and then populates a list
box with the results. There are no uninstall checks or
anything like that to verify that an application can be
uninstalled. It just calls the string in the uninstall key
to begin the installation. As this is a GW Micro script, it
is free to modify and re-distribute, so if someone wants to
beef it up, they're welcome to it.
Aaron
Wendy Alling wrote:
Hello to the list,
I have the add remove script installed and when I activate
the script with alt control a the list box comes up
fine. The problem comes in when I try to remove a
program. I get error messages that the program cannot be
removed or that windows can't find the file. Is this
supposed to work when you use this script? When I go to
add remove programs in control panel it works just
fine. If this is an issue with the script I hope it can
be resolved as it is an easy way to remove programs.
Wendy
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