Not so, that holds true for Dell as well, although I think Dell does not put as 
much junk on their machines like they used to.  I reformatted mine 8
years ago  and put what I needed on it and it is still running flawlessly.    
----- Original Message ----- 
From: John Gunn 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 1:03 PM
Subject: RE: sent my computer to GW


Aaron:

I would agree with formatting however I believe if one does your suggestion, HP 
might not honnor the warantee.

Take care,

John





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From: Aaron Smith [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 12:00 PM
Cc: gwmicro
Subject: Re: sent my computer to GW


To be fair, it's less about the fact that you have an HP, and more about the 
fact that you have an HP with all of HP's crap installed. If you were to 
reformat and re-install, you'd have a brand new machine, that would rock with 
Window-Eyes. I wrote about this, back in the day, on our blog: 
http://www.gwmicro.com/blog/index.php/all/?title=new_pc_woes.

Aaron

On 4/6/2010 12:26 PM, C. Richcreek wrote: 
  Hi All, I am also using an HP but this is a laptop and having issues. Most of 
the issues are caused by HP but WinEyes is, for the small part, having some 
issues also, I would advise anyone and everyone not to buy an HP because many 
of their Win7 HP  support programs are done in all flash? It seems that 
Microsoft takes two steps forward and HP takes four steps backwards in 
accessibility. Another issue is with Windows Live Mail. I don't see how the 
calendar can get corrupted data in it when I never go into it but when this 
happens the email program can not be opened, sheeze, multiple problems and 
WinEyes is the easiest so far to get through. Sorry about the so long rant but 
just had to spill. Thanks dearly, Craig R


  From: Don H 
  Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 5:40 AM
  To: gwmicro 
  Subject: sent my computer to GW




  When Windows 7 came out back in October I had a free upgrade coming from HP 
on my recently purchased Desktop computer.  Now don't lecture me on why it is a 
bad idea to install a newly released operating system as I totally agree but 
hey I am old and don't have time to wait for it to be bug free as bug free 
never happens.

  After installing Win 7 and WE 7.11 I had problems with a random crash of my 
system when I started WE after a boot or computer restart.  At this point I 
couldn't say for sure if it was a Win 7 problem a computer problem or a Window 
Eyes problem.  I contacted HP with no help, contacted Microsoft with no help 
and reported the problem to GW and got the response that they couldn't 
duplicate the problem.

  After numerous WE generated error reports being sent to Aaron Smith at GW I 
got the response that maybe WE was causing the problem and a possible fix would 
be in 7.2.

  Well the WE 7.2 beta 1 changed the problem in that WE no longer generated a 
error message but I was still getting the crash.

  Aaron Smith finally told me that the only way that they could potentially fix 
the problem was for me to send GW my computer.

  I didn't really like the idea of sending them my computer but I also was fed 
up with the problem.  So a little over a week ago I sent in my computer.

  After they received my computer it got top priority for Aaron Smith and 
others at GW to figure the problem out and get the computer back to me in short 
order.

  After a day of work at GW they did indeed agree that Window Eyes was causing 
my problem and after another couple of days they pinned it down to a timing 
problem with the Windows Log On service and GW did in fact resolve the problem 
on my computer and will include the fix in the 7.2 release of WE.  Aaron 
indicated that this fix would probably benefit a small number of WE users with 
the same or similar problem.    

  It cost me a total of $19 to send GW my computer and since it was in fact a 
WE problem they paid the shipping back.  I see that as a few dollars well spent 
and just another indication of the great support that GW provides.

  So when GW recommends that you send in your computer don't be like me and 
hesitate and send it in if at all possible.  You will probably get your problem 
solved and maybe just maybe make Window Eyes even a better product. 

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