I've seen a lot of systems these days that don't even give you a windows cd. Also, if you use their cd, it often re-installs the same junk.
73
Butch Bussen
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Las Vegas

On Tue, 6 Apr 2010, Sandra Fouts wrote:

Besides,  you shouldn't need to buy a new computer then turn around and 
reforemat it.  Sorry but that's crazy.


Sandra Fouts
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Arkansas Attorney General's Office
323 Center Street, Ste 200
Little Rock, AR
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-----Original Message-----
From: John Gunn [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 12:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: sent my computer to GW

Aaron:

I would agree with formatting however I believe if one does your suggestion, HP 
might not honnor the warantee.

Take care,

John



________________________________

From: Aaron Smith [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 12:00 PM
Cc: gwmicro
Subject: Re: sent my computer to GW


To be fair, it's less about the fact that you have an HP, and more about the 
fact that you have an HP with all of HP's crap installed. If you were to 
reformat and re-install, you'd have a brand new machine, that would rock with 
Window-Eyes. I wrote about this, back in the day, on our blog: 
http://www.gwmicro.com/blog/index.php/all/?title=new_pc_woes.

Aaron

On 4/6/2010 12:26 PM, C. Richcreek wrote:

       Hi All, I am also using an HP but this is a laptop and having issues. 
Most of the issues are caused by HP but WinEyes is, for the small part, having 
some issues also, I would advise anyone and everyone not to buy an HP because 
many of their Win7 HP  support programs are done in all flash? It seems that 
Microsoft takes two steps forward and HP takes four steps backwards in 
accessibility. Another issue is with Windows Live Mail. I don't see how the 
calendar can get corrupted data in it when I never go into it but when this 
happens the email program can not be opened, sheeze, multiple problems and 
WinEyes is the easiest so far to get through. Sorry about the so long rant but 
just had to spill. Thanks dearly, Craig R

       From: Don H <mailto:[email protected]>
       Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 5:40 AM
       To: gwmicro <mailto:[email protected]>
       Subject: sent my computer to GW




       When Windows 7 came out back in October I had a free upgrade coming from 
HP on my recently purchased Desktop computer.  Now don't lecture me on why it 
is a bad idea to install a newly released operating system as I totally agree 
but hey I am old and don't have time to wait for it to be bug free as bug free 
never happens.

       After installing Win 7 and WE 7.11 I had problems with a random crash of 
my system when I started WE after a boot or computer restart.  At this point I 
couldn't say for sure if it was a Win 7 problem a computer problem or a Window 
Eyes problem.  I contacted HP with no help, contacted Microsoft with no help 
and reported the problem to GW and got the response that they couldn't 
duplicate the problem.

       After numerous WE generated error reports being sent to Aaron Smith at 
GW I got the response that maybe WE was causing the problem and a possible fix 
would be in 7.2.

       Well the WE 7.2 beta 1 changed the problem in that WE no longer 
generated a error message but I was still getting the crash.

       Aaron Smith finally told me that the only way that they could 
potentially fix the problem was for me to send GW my computer.

       I didn't really like the idea of sending them my computer but I also was 
fed up with the problem.  So a little over a week ago I sent in my computer.

       After they received my computer it got top priority for Aaron Smith and 
others at GW to figure the problem out and get the computer back to me in short 
order.

       After a day of work at GW they did indeed agree that Window Eyes was 
causing my problem and after another couple of days they pinned it down to a 
timing problem with the Windows Log On service and GW did in fact resolve the 
problem on my computer and will include the fix in the 7.2 release of WE.  
Aaron indicated that this fix would probably benefit a small number of WE users 
with the same or similar problem.

       It cost me a total of $19 to send GW my computer and since it was in 
fact a WE problem they paid the shipping back.  I see that as a few dollars 
well spent and just another indication of the great support that GW provides.

       So when GW recommends that you send in your computer don't be like me 
and hesitate and send it in if at all possible.  You will probably get your 
problem solved and maybe just maybe make Window Eyes even a better product.

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