I think it's because I've never had such issues. All of my soundcards have been either creative or Intel and I've never had a problem with any of them, and I like the sounds when programs open and close in the backround, because with them, I can tell when I have too much running and that also tells me that there is commotion going on.
-----Original Message----- From: Tom Kingston [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 11:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: loss of sound Well, with few exceptions, like low power sounds on a laptop, I think it's just something we get accustomed to. Almost every sound is just related to something you do on the system and most of the time you know that you did that anyway because something changes, e.g. why do I need to hear a click sound when I open a folder when Window-Eyes tells me in not so many words that I just did that. Why do I need a sound to tell me that I just plugged in a USB drive when it either opens or a prompt to open it pops up. And so on. Yes, I'm sure there are more exceptions than a low battery alarm, but there are often workarounds and it's worth it to me if it's going to improve my system's stability. Tom On 12/12/2011 10:30 PM, Katherine Moss wrote: > I like having the system sounds on simply because I have sounds marked out > corresponding to the events happening in my environment. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Kingston [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 10:11 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: loss of sound > > I guess if the onboard RealTek chip set is the only audio you use it works. > But even then, turning off the sound enhancements offers A considerable > improvement in stability. I happen to use two other audio interfaces and have > had problems with putting anything else in the system whenever a RealTek chip > set is present. Sometimes disabling it in bios, installing another card, and > then enabling the RealTek works. But in general I've had problems with > RealTek since day one regardless of whatever else is going on. Even if they > work I've noticed the difference when having two systems I work on daily; one > having RealTek and the other having Intel. Speech is much more responsive on > the system with the Intel chip set. And that's only if the audio enhancements > are turned off, which by the way I thank Chris for outlining. I didn't have > that information be it that my RealTek is disabled in bios. > > But I do agree that the Windows 7 audio sub system, which was supposed to be > a real focus of improvement, is definitely not as stable as in XP, regardless > of what you're trying to do with it. > > I also believe that because manufacturers now ride a very slippery slope when > it comes to the original IBM PC standards, systems vary greatly in how well > they perform in many ways. And I think given the nature of a screen-reader we > are hit the hardest by all the little corners cut by manufacturers in order > to build a system they can sell for half the price of another with the same > specs. Spec sheets have become nothing more than a marketing tool. It's > everything between the lines that truly make it or break it on a system. I've > seen systems with identical spec sheets benchmarked and the difference in > performance and stability can be phenomenal. > > I believe this is why it's very difficult for GW to pin down problems when 3 > people complain about it and 23 people say it works great, or someone blames > Window-Eyes for a problem and they are not able to duplicate it on any of > their systems. And this doesn't even touch on the sloppy nature of most > programs, drivers, uninstallers, things loaded at startup, etc. on our > systems. I've seen huge overall improvement just by disabling all the junk > that's loaded at startup. > > I do have system sounds turned off because it only makes sense to me > to do so given my understanding and experience with the audio system. > I used them off and on for years, but turned them off when I got a > Windows > 7 machine a while back. And I don't miss them. They're rarely telling me > anything anyway. I've only had one speech loss since getting this system and > I believe that was due to a script error. > > I use a DecTalk USB external synth 90% of the time. But I do occasionally > switch to a software synth just for a change in audio scenery so to speak, > and I don't notice any better or worse performance for the days or weeks that > I run it before going back to the DecTalk. > > Regards, > Tom > > > On 12/12/2011 3:35 PM, Rob Hudson wrote: >> Never had problems with realtech sound cards until I upgraded to win7. >> One of the main reasons I went back to xp. Bingo, no sound losses. >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Kingston" >> <[email protected]> >> To:<[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 2:25 PM >> Subject: Re: loss of sound >> >> >>> For what it's worth, every system I've ever had with a RealTek sound >>> card has been problematic to say the least. They don't seem to like >>> any other cards or audio interfaces being used, and they have some >>> garbage sound enhancements turned on by default that wreak havoc >>> with everything. So first try to find that in device manager or >>> control panel and turn it off. Then, if you can, as I did with my >>> latest system that I couldn't get without RealTek onboard, do >>> yourself a big favor and disable it in bios; this will require >>> sighted help, then grab a PCI, PCIE, or USB sound card and life will be a >>> lot easier. >>> >>> Hth, >>> Tom >>> >>> >>> On 12/12/2011 3:07 PM, Alan Siman wrote: >>>> This has been an on going issue and alot of emails lately trying to >>>> isolate the problem. It seems that many of us have reltech sound >>>> cards but it appears to be a win7 issue. >>>> >>>> WE 7.5.2 has actually reduced my problem but it still occurs mainly >>>> in tbird. Do you lose all sounds or just we? >>>> >>>> On 12/12/2011 11:55 AM, Don H wrote: >>>>> Since installing the latest WE 7.5.2 I have been experiencing more >>>>> total loss of sound. Only way to get it back is to reboot and >>>>> about half the time the only way to reboot is to hold down the power >>>>> button. >>>>> Running on a Win 7 64 bit machine with all updates including video >>>>> and sound card drivers. >>>>> Also with IE 8 I am needing to do a lot of screen redraws to get a >>>>> web page to complete its download. >>>>> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >>>>> sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and >>>>> your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending >>>>> your message to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> so the entire list will receive it. >>>>> >>>>> GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. >>>>> You can manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv. >>>>> >>>>> >>> If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original >>> sender only. 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