Dear all,
I used to be a webmaster programmer myself on a Dreamhost domain
dns site myself. I believe that in software just like the internet
that more consensus needs to be made about self-regulation of all
products to make everything far more inclusive of all members of
society not the foot shuffling like you see with Ean Hicks at
Google.com under w3.org standards on html5 that seems like it will
never come to fruition at this rate. These companies doublespeak to us
the blind and abuse us cause simply put we don't give them money cause
our segment world-wide has relitively lots of poverty and are
extremely subsedized by the government at that so there are
fluxuations.
Secondly, the there needs to be a new redefinition of capitalism
from how I see it caue its obvious that this system isn't doing the
disabled any good. All of the most successful blind people mainly work
in the public sector not cause of lazyness or other anctedotes or
whatever just cause nobody works with us including the hypocrits in
the software bus. Till we have another partner on the other side
willing to put in their all the whole endeavor seems pointless cause
Window-Eyes cannot keep pace even with Microsoft in my opinion that is
just the truth nobody can debate that point here or abroad.
fact jack,
Peter
On 4/29/12, Bill Scherer <[email protected]> wrote:
> Then tell me the deffinition of a "screen Reader" as you see it.
> Some people seem to think that you should be able to by a $600 piece of
> software that will work with any piece of software you put in it's way. and
>
> that it's the screen reader company's obligation to make it so.
> It's not possible nonbelievers. It's the responsability of the original
> writers of the software
> to write it so that it will work with screen readers. There are standards.
> and if Software designers followed them we probably wouldn't need to have
> this discussion. ----- Just because I own a house doesn't mean I don't have
>
> to pay for upgrades in the wiring plumbing etc.
> Bill
> Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Beasley" <[email protected]>
> To: "Bill Scherer" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 3:07 PM
> Subject: Re: what's wrong with charging? Re: My Dream App for Window-Eyes to
>
> be
>
>
>> You are not getting it free.You are paying for your screen reader .
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bill Scherer" <[email protected]>
>> To: "Pamela Dominguez" <[email protected]>
>> Cc: "Window-Eyes discussion list" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 6:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: what's wrong with charging? Re: My Dream App for Window-Eyes
>>
>> to be
>>
>>
>>> Because until companies make their software accessible, out of the box,
>>> it takes lots of work to get some of them working.
>>> Plus I don't think a screen reader company has the resources to make all
>>>
>>> programs work with their product. It's not possible without lots of work.
>>>
>>> It's not, GW Micro's fault that
>>> everything doesn't work. Their job is to provide a screen reader that
>>> works well with many types of the more popular or most used programs.
>>> The microsoft products, for instance.
>>> Anything else is really gravy.
>>> We aren't entitled to get everything free. All this is just my opinion of
>>>
>>> course and not intended to start a war. <grin>
>>> Bill
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Pamela Dominguez" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "Bill Scherer" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 4:20 PM
>>> Subject: Re: what's wrong with charging? Re: My Dream App for Window-Eyes
>>>
>>> to be
>>>
>>>
>>>> You already pay for window eyes, why should you pay more? Pam.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Bill Scherer
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 2:01 PM
>>>> To: Sandra Fouts
>>>> Cc: Window-Eyes discussion list
>>>> Subject: what's wrong with charging? Re: My Dream App for Window-Eyes to
>>>>
>>>> be
>>>>
>>>> Well we can't expect to always get apps for nothing. for instance $10 or
>>>>
>>>> $20
>>>> doesn't seem unreal to me for many apps.
>>>> If it's total scrypting for a program it takes hours and hours. Like it
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>> not that money has to come from somewhere.
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Sandra Fouts" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: "'chris hallsworth'" <[email protected]>; "'G W Micro'"
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 12:12 PM
>>>> Subject: RE: My Dream App for Window-Eyes to be
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Then you'll have some unhappy customers that don't normally use
>>>> window-eyes
>>>> and don't need to use WE say forget it.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: chris hallsworth [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 12:10 PM
>>>> To: 'G W Micro'
>>>> Subject: Re: My Dream App for Window-Eyes to be
>>>>
>>>> As for making Gw Connect chargeable, it could be something like $10 or
>>>> $20 and it would just remove the commercials and the boxes at the start
>>>> and/or the end of the program. It could be a one time fee.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Christopher Hallsworth
>>>>
>>>> On 27/04/2012 17:28, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It is not really a Window-Eyes app, but it would be nice when
>>>>> GWConnect could also be bought.
>>>>> For Window-Eyes users it is a really nice gift, but I think that GW
>>>>> Micro can ask a small amount of money for it and other users will buy
>>>>> itso they don't get the commercials. Or Only a message when it is
>>>>> starting orso.
>>>>>
>>>>> A good app I know is Polyglot. Usefull. The virtual windows app is
>>>>> also usefull.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, marten
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