In a perfect world you would be correct, but it still boils down to the
software that you use on that computer.
If the people that write the 3rd party software on that computer don't use
the standards for writing that software, than you're still out of luck and
that software will need to have something inconjunction with that built in
screen reader to make it work.
What garantee do you have that the company that makes the OS will always put
the effort in to making the screen reader as good as it should be? What if
they update the OS and don't put an updated screenreader in that OS for 3
months and some things don't work anymore?
Does all the software written for the Mac work on the Mac?
Last I heard, Logic Pro didn't and I think it's owned by Apple. I hope they
take care of that situation. for a long time Pro Tools didn't work for blind
people either. One is made by Apple and Pro Tools is not.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clinton Waterbury" <[email protected]>
To: "Bill Scherer" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Peter Beasley" <[email protected]>; "Window-Eyes discussion list"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: what's wrong with charging? Re: My Dream App for Window-Eyes to
be
I think if you could take the Apple approach, that would make it a lot
better.
With the mac, you're only paying $600-$2500 depending on the computer you
get from Apple, but the screen reader comes free with the OS.
But then again, we have things like ms narrator that are free with the OS,
but are total crap.
On Apr 29, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Bill Scherer wrote:
Then tell me the deffinition of a "screen Reader" as you see it.
Some people seem to think that you should be able to by a $600 piece of
software that will work with any piece of software you put in it's way.
and that it's the screen reader company's obligation to make it so.
It's not possible nonbelievers. It's the responsability of the original
writers of the software
to write it so that it will work with screen readers. There are standards.
and if Software designers followed them we probably wouldn't need to have
this discussion. ----- Just because I own a house doesn't mean I don't
have to pay for upgrades in the wiring plumbing etc.
Bill
Original Message ----- From: "Peter Beasley" <[email protected]>
To: "Bill Scherer" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: what's wrong with charging? Re: My Dream App for Window-Eyes
to be
You are not getting it free.You are paying for your screen reader .
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Scherer" <[email protected]>
To: "Pamela Dominguez" <[email protected]>
Cc: "Window-Eyes discussion list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: what's wrong with charging? Re: My Dream App for Window-Eyes
to be
Because until companies make their software accessible, out of the box,
it takes lots of work to get some of them working.
Plus I don't think a screen reader company has the resources to make all
programs work with their product. It's not possible without lots of
work. It's not, GW Micro's fault that
everything doesn't work. Their job is to provide a screen reader that
works well with many types of the more popular or most used programs.
The microsoft products, for instance.
Anything else is really gravy.
We aren't entitled to get everything free. All this is just my opinion
of course and not intended to start a war. <grin>
Bill
----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Dominguez"
<[email protected]>
To: "Bill Scherer" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: what's wrong with charging? Re: My Dream App for
Window-Eyes to be
You already pay for window eyes, why should you pay more? Pam.
-----Original Message----- From: Bill Scherer
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 2:01 PM
To: Sandra Fouts
Cc: Window-Eyes discussion list
Subject: what's wrong with charging? Re: My Dream App for Window-Eyes
to be
Well we can't expect to always get apps for nothing. for instance $10
or $20
doesn't seem unreal to me for many apps.
If it's total scrypting for a program it takes hours and hours. Like it
or
not that money has to come from somewhere.
Bill
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Fouts"
<[email protected]>
To: "'chris hallsworth'" <[email protected]>; "'G W Micro'"
<[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 12:12 PM
Subject: RE: My Dream App for Window-Eyes to be
Then you'll have some unhappy customers that don't normally use
window-eyes
and don't need to use WE say forget it.
-----Original Message-----
From: chris hallsworth [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 12:10 PM
To: 'G W Micro'
Subject: Re: My Dream App for Window-Eyes to be
As for making Gw Connect chargeable, it could be something like $10 or
$20 and it would just remove the commercials and the boxes at the start
and/or the end of the program. It could be a one time fee.
Christopher Hallsworth
On 27/04/2012 17:28, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote:
It is not really a Window-Eyes app, but it would be nice when
GWConnect could also be bought.
For Window-Eyes users it is a really nice gift, but I think that GW
Micro can ask a small amount of money for it and other users will buy
itso they don't get the commercials. Or Only a message when it is
starting orso.
A good app I know is Polyglot. Usefull. The virtual windows app is
also usefull.
Regards, marten
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