I'm guessing you've never encountered the "perky goth" subset of goth then. 
A google search should give you more than a few areas to look. As for the 
Lolita's looking innocent and sweet that's the whole idea. Sweet evil and 
innocent *looking*. Then you have the harajuku girls of Gwen Stefani fame. 
Yet another division in the Goth clothing movement.
gothicauctions.com<http://gothicauctions.com>will show a number of
DIYers who sell to others. I see a lot of square dance
dresses adapted to Lolita (that's what I use for my clothes anyhow) and 
bustle skirts in any fabric is popular. Past Patterns #904 the polonaise 
dress is HUGE for Goth DIYers. I've made one version in PVC in fact. Right 
now I'm working on a black lolita nun dress.

B

On 9/3/05, Lavolta Press <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> As for Goths, who I supect may be a rather large DIY crowd, I've never
> been tempted to become one because, as far as I can tell from the
> historic costumers I know who are also Goths, they hang out in clubs and
> listen to modern music. I can't stand modern music. Also, I look awful
> in black. But some of the ideas on the net I've seen are really
> creative. The Gothic Lolitas seem far too sweet and innocent to be real
> Goths though. While, as far as I know, none of my passing Goth
> acquaintances actually drink blood, they seem pretty sophisticated.
> 
> Fran
> Lavolta Press
>
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