Uh, nope.  Custom-made corset (by me, and it's fair to say that I know what
I'm doing with 16th century costuming, at least for myself...got recognized
for it mumblety-mumble years ago with an SCA peerage).  It's more the effect
that proper lift and support will have on a 56G chest.  <weg>
I do get minor spillage (*koff*) if the outfit I'm wearing isn't properly
fitted, or if I've wiggled the corset too low, but the shelf's there,
regardless.  There's just too much to squish flat into the proper 16th
century silhouette.  Or 21st century, for that matter.  I'm not quite this
large (thank goodness!) at a lower weight, but structurally, the ratio
remains the same.
No offense taken, either, over your advice.  Many of us appreciate hearing
about different fitting techniques! ;o)
--Sue


----- Original Message -----
From: "kelly grant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2006 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: Bosoms


> >  You get somebody who's well-endowed
> > to begin with, like me, and add some overweight to it, >and I *can't*
> > avoid
> > having a shelf.  Even in a modern bra, I've got a shelf.  >In a corset,
> > though, it's quite a bit more obvious, especially when >compared to the
> > same
> > area on a woman less rounded and endowed.
>
> I can understand your point. We are a bit heavier in general, but I think
> it'd effect the cleavage line than anything.
>
> You are getting a shelf in you corset because it doesn't fit quite right,
> comercial pattern?  Your modern bra is because of the same problem.  Often
> times comercial pattern makers will scale up from the perfect sixe 12
> manikin.  Not many people are that perfect.  Store bought bras are the
same
> way.  They don't actually make my size in bra...a 34DDD1/2, so I usually
> have the four boob effect, or the band moves around too much, or I alter.
>
> For your corset, try raising the front a bit.  Make a mock up, too long in
> height from the armhole depth line up.  Try it on, adjust where you want
> your breasts to sit, and then get someone else to mark your top of corset
> line. You should have a nice rounding, but no spillage/shelving.
>
> Hope that helps, and I'm not offending anyone.
> Kelly/estela


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