Gack! I wasn't, really, trying to aim the "flaming" reference at you! Heavens, no. I'm sorry that wasn't clear (mea culpa!). What I was trying to say, in my clumsy/wordy fashion, was that I really didn't want this thread to degenerate into another tirade on fat Americans. We've had those on this list, unfortunately, and I'd be pretty content if they didn't occur in the future. I'm laughing at your description of a "big wompin' mama" <weg>. I qualify, although I'm more fire-plug shaped, being short and not amazonian-tall. ;o) I don't have much experience at all with RenFaires (they just don't occur in my part of the world, so what I know is all 2nd-hand), but I've seen plenty of the same sort of ill-fitting bodices and bad information occur at SCA events. Not at all familiar with the article you're mentioning--if you remember more specifics, it'd be great if you'd post them. I'd like to read it. --Sue
----- Original Message ----- From: "otsisto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 6:23 PM Subject: RE: [h-cost] Re: Bosoms > Thank you for reminding me of the Dutch paints, I had forgotten about them. > :) > Though I am bias I do not think that my post was flaming. > Your statement is not the first time I have heard about comparison of weight > from the Renaissance to modern. I may have assumed that you had read the > article that someone told me about a few months back. > I may not be a big wompin' momma but I come in a close second, so it isn't a > weight issue, it's an information issue, with me. > I don't think that it matters of the size of the woman but I think you are > correct about poor fit, and poor information. > My friend who is into fetish and historic costume corsetry once told me many > of the women she encounters from RenFairs have ill-fitted corsets.(roughly > 60% have the wrong century corset) > She has had women come to her and ask how can she wear that corset because > they wore a corset for a RenFaire and was so uncomfortable. After explaining > proper fit, she would offer to either fit them with a store bought corset or > make one. 99% of those who take up her offer are satisfied with the results. > I hear many think that the bawdy look is the norm and rampantly crosses the > classes. > Many assume that the head costumer is well read in historic costuming > (usually they are) there are also those that show up to the RenFaire who > have copied a gown that they saw at the faire the previous year not knowing > whether it is period or another person perpetuating another person's > fantasy. > And then there are the major pattern companies and their "Renaissance" > patterns that don't help the matter. > Now this is my opinion and doesn't mean that it is 100% fact. > De _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume