Just realized teh whole text was there-- noway does Trachten refer to clothes, all 83 uses for cow are listed and none of them are anything other than recipes. Also, another candidate for "Trachend un Speisen" are frogs, and I just don't buy it that there's anything frog-related in clothing!
I looked it up in my olkd Cassel's and an alternate meaning for Tracht is "yield", which makes much more sense in this case. Astrida -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Ingrid G. Storrø Sent: Mon 7/2/2007 2:09 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: RE: [h-cost] WOT Bjarne, On Fri, 29 Jun 2007, Schaeffer, Astrida wrote: > >> The phrase: > >> "Vom Ochsen seind drei und achtzigerlei Speise und Trachten zu > machen" > > > Well, my German mother thinks Trachten is still clothing in this > context, as that's the term for folk clothing. Specifically for this > case, the leather pants that comprise part of the gear. This could then > literally be a reference to the use of the meat --and hide-- of the ox. > Hard to tell without more of the original quote... A google search on the phrase gives this page http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:p5MmvIoKn78J:www.ravenstreet.org/Tirloch/ein%2520neu%2520kuchbuch%2520-%2520transcribed%2520pages......pdf+vom+drei+und+achtzigerlei&hl=no&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=no&client=firefox-a In the document 83 foods/dishes are listed as being made from the ox, which would probably mean that Trachten in this context isn't clothes since 83 is given as the combined number of Spesien and Trachten. Ingrid -- This email has been scanned for viruses & spam by Domenebutikken - www.domenebutikken.no Denne e-posten er sjekket for virus & spam av Domenebutikken - www.domenebutikken.no _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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