Keith Edmunds wrote: > > The MythTV mailing list and website are very helpful in this respect. > I don't run myth so didn't think of posting there, the linux-dvb mailing list wasn't very helpful. > >> For me I own: >> >> http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?page=Product&fm=null&sm=null&tm=null&sku=226218&category_oid= >> > > That's just plain irritating. Why do you make your reader(s) click on a > link to find out what you are talking about? Why not just say, "I have a > Blogmeister TelliVee WonderCard"? > I was trying to be explicit as to which card I own (especially has hauppauge have several models with similar names) and after pasting the link I obviously forgot to add the name and model to the email. Thanks for cutting me some slack. Sometime I do wonder why I bother with this mailing list as so often I seem to run into people who are more interested in posting a hostile response than fostering a sense of community. Not exactly friendly, thanks. >> TV cards are still not as good as the support that Windows provides >> > > I'm not sure that makes sense. Maybe you mean that the support for TV > cards under Linux is inferior to that which Windows provides. I couldn't > comment: I don't run Windows, but I suspect that is the case. If Google is > not working you might want to look at > http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Video_capture_card > > I'm trying to point out what an up hill struggle a new Linux user has trying to get a working system with a working TV card of some description.Your only choice is to run the gauntlet of unhelpful, sarcastic and in many cases down right rude "experienced" Linux users while you tear your hair out wondering why things don't work.
That link on the MythTV wiki illustrates this point perfectly. If as a Windows user I go into PC world I can look at some shiny boxes on the shelf, read the worlds on the small selection they have, and take home a card / USB stick that will work with my Windows machine all nice and easy. They even have a nice sticker saying things like "Media Centre Compatible" so I know I can have a card that will work. For Linux I have to search Google and find the MythTV page you linked. If I can get past the jargon of DVB-something and ATSC and other bits and follow the link to "Terrestrial viewing" I'm present with a list of 45 cards with meaningless names with no clue as to where I might go to buy one of the cards or even if the card is still sold. If I then decide that I thought the Hauppauge WinTV Nova-T 500 PCI looked interesting, and I thought that PC World sold it, I click on the link to the page with details on the card and run a mile! http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_WinTV_Nova-T_500_PCI Or if I thought that the HVR-1110 sounded good I think I would be more put off by this page: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppage_WinTV-HVR-1110 And that is why I come back to my point that I would not recommend Linux as a media centre solution for anyone who doesn't already know Linux and isn't afraid to get their hands dirty, it's just too much hassle. Don't get me wrong, Linux is great, my home laptop runs it, I run a media centre / server at home and my day to day development machine at work runs Linux. I've been using it on and off for over 12 years now. But it just isn't user friendly especially when you start dealing with things like TV and media. If all you want is to email, browse the web and type simple documents I would recommend a netbook running Linux in a flash, but for "power" uses it is too steep a learning curve and too difficult for your average computer user. I truly wish it wasn't that hard, I wish manufactures listed Linux compatibility on their hardware boxes / websites, and I really wish people on mailing lists were less rude to newbies asking questions. And that the solution to problems wasn't the case of, oh simple just open a console window and type "insert magic incantation here". Most windows users have never even seen a command prompt and would run a mile at the prospect of having to type something in or edit some arcane configuration file to get what they see as a basic job done. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --------------------------------------------------------------
