I agree with Colin: We should make newcomers feel welcome to this hobby, young or old or in-between, and we should encourage their observations and thoughts. That’s how we all learned. To me, the trick is how to take advantage of a teachable moment without it feeling like a put-down. I don’t claim any great insights on that subject, but I do think about it when I respond to a post, even if I don’t always get it right.
Thanks. Art Delibert Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 From: david goren<mailto:shortwaveol...@mac.com> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 5:37 PM To: Paul B. Walker, Jr.<mailto:walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> Cc: hard-core...@hard-core-dx.coma<mailto:Hard-Core-DX@hard-core-dx.com> Subject: Re: [HCDX] Report on Radio Clube do Para 4885 > On Sep 11, 2017, at 4:57 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. > <walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> wrote: > > My statement was an educated guess based upon observations. Nothing more > nothing less. And now I'm expected to remember something Glenn put in a > log months Ago? I don't think so! Paul, nobody’s trying to run you down. The point I was trying make is that in this listening community observations like this are constantly noted and therefore eminently searchable. When I saw your original post I just googled “Clube Do Para off air 4885” and found several mentions right away. It’s fine to go with your gut, but you’re not listening in a vacuum. We’re listening along with you and the data is often findable. > > I sent a letter to the station and asked a few questions, to confirm power > level and off air/air status and improvements recently so I *DID* do my > homework... I am just waiting to hear back > > I have some expierience and knowledge of broadcasting, both in the on air > and technical Side of the business. Something most DXers have none of and > something Glenn hasn't had in decades, longer then I've been alive. > > If I am making a negative insinuation or assumption about a station or > insulting them, you'll know... trust me. I'll make that clear. > > I make an EDUCATED guess based about my limited few years experience as a > DXer and my decade plus as a broadcaster who's seen many transmitter shacks > and knows many engineers > > Paul > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 4:50 PM WHO DARES WINS <broadwin...@msn.com> wrote: > >> Since you refused to honor my request to not post my original message, and >> was selective in what you did post, how about you post the rest of our >> conversation so I'm not made out to be attacking Poor Paul as that's what >> started now. >> >> >> John C. >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: WHO DARES WINS <broadwin...@msn.com<mailto:broadwin...@msn.com>> >> Date: September 11, 2017 at 11:31:58 AM EDT >> To: david goren <shortwaveol...@mac.com<mailto:shortwaveol...@mac.com>> >> Subject: Re: [HCDX] Report on Radio Clube do Para 4885 >> >> David, >> >> I agree completely but there's no subtle way of getting the attention of >> some people other than being direct. Like I stated previously, please >> disregard my post about 4885. It's just a shame that certain logging >> information posted isn't more credible with investigation being done first, >> not just to post. >> >> At least Glen H., and other DXers do their homework first or ask a >> question instead of making unfounded statements. Again, please disregard my >> post please! >> >> >> John C. >> >> >> On Sep 11, 2017, at 11:13 AM, david goren <shortwaveol...@mac.com<mailto: >> shortwaveol...@mac.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi John: >> >> Certainly, I don’t think you were being intentionally unfair to Paul…more >> using a figure of speech. He does frequently jump to conclusions and ignore >> the cumulative wisdom of other dx’ers. >> >> I was hoping to send a subtle message to Paul that this information was >> already out there, through sources that he disdains like Glenn. No doubt a >> wasted effort. >> >> 73, >> >> David >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:52 AM, WHO DARES WINS <broadwin...@msn.com<mailto: >> broadwin...@msn.com>> wrote: >> >> I wasn't trying to be unfair but if your making statements perhaps you >> should check with the station first? That sounds like the professional and >> fair thing to do before making statements without fact? I'm not trying to >> flame anyone! >> >> Disregard my previous post re: 4885. My post was made on reception of this >> station I personally have picked up as seasonally they have always come in >> better after Summer. >> >> >> John C. >> >> >> On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:42 AM, david goren <shortwaveol...@mac.com<mailto: >> shortwaveol...@mac.com>> wrote: >> >> Well to be fair to Paul, Clube do Para was off air earlier in the summer >> per Glenn Hauser and other reports due to an ownership dispute. They have >> been sounding better than in recent years so perhaps some maintenance was >> done as well. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:34 AM, WHO DARES WINS <broadwin...@msn.com<mailto: >> broadwin...@msn.com>> wrote: >> >> BRAZIL. Radio Clube do Para, 4885, Belem, in Portuguese, is and has been a >> easy regular DX daily catch in South Central, Pa., and other SW DXers in >> Pennsylvania report it frequently. >> >> With the change over in seasons from Sumner to Fall, the reception quality >> always has increased during the past years I've listened for them. It is >> one of the Tropical Band stations you can always depend on DXing and >> hearing at a Poor-Fair level in the Summer to Fair-Good in the Fall, Winter >> and Spring without fail. >> >> It's been reported daily, weekly, and monthly in SW blogs as a normal >> catch. I'm sure if you contacted the station via their web page and asked >> them about transmitter upgrades they would be more than glad to reply. 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