And I myself havent always been the smoothest or most helpful to people even newer to the hobby either, but I try. For 2KW, to have Armchair like copy up here, I'm quite impressed, regardless of anything else
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 7:02 PM, Arthur Delibert <radio7...@msn.com> wrote: > I agree with Colin: We should make newcomers feel welcome to this hobby, > young or old or in-between, and we should encourage their observations and > thoughts. That’s how we all learned. To me, the trick is how to take > advantage of a teachable moment without it feeling like a put-down. I > don’t claim any great insights on that subject, but I do think about it > when I respond to a post, even if I don’t always get it right. > > Thanks. > > Art Delibert > > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > From: david goren<mailto:shortwaveol...@mac.com> > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 5:37 PM > To: Paul B. Walker, Jr.<mailto:walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> > Cc: hard-core...@hard-core-dx.coma<mailto:Hard-Core-DX@hard-core-dx.com> > Subject: Re: [HCDX] Report on Radio Clube do Para 4885 > > > > On Sep 11, 2017, at 4:57 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. < > walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > My statement was an educated guess based upon observations. Nothing > more > > nothing less. And now I'm expected to remember something Glenn put in a > > log months Ago? I don't think so! > > Paul, nobody’s trying to run you down. The point I was trying make is that > in this listening community observations like this are constantly noted and > therefore eminently searchable. When I saw your original post I just > googled “Clube Do Para off air 4885” and found several mentions right away. > It’s fine to go with your gut, but you’re not listening in a vacuum. We’re > listening along with you and the data is often findable. > > > > > I sent a letter to the station and asked a few questions, to confirm > power > > level and off air/air status and improvements recently so I *DID* do my > > homework... I am just waiting to hear back > > > > I have some expierience and knowledge of broadcasting, both in the on air > > and technical Side of the business. Something most DXers have none of > and > > something Glenn hasn't had in decades, longer then I've been alive. > > > > If I am making a negative insinuation or assumption about a station or > > insulting them, you'll know... trust me. I'll make that clear. > > > > I make an EDUCATED guess based about my limited few years experience as a > > DXer and my decade plus as a broadcaster who's seen many transmitter > shacks > > and knows many engineers > > > > Paul > > > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 4:50 PM WHO DARES WINS <broadwin...@msn.com> > wrote: > > > >> Since you refused to honor my request to not post my original message, > and > >> was selective in what you did post, how about you post the rest of our > >> conversation so I'm not made out to be attacking Poor Paul as that's > what > >> started now. > >> > >> > >> John C. > >> > >> > >> Begin forwarded message: > >> > >> From: WHO DARES WINS <broadwin...@msn.com<mailto:broadwin...@msn.com>> > >> Date: September 11, 2017 at 11:31:58 AM EDT > >> To: david goren <shortwaveol...@mac.com<mailto:shortwaveol...@mac.com>> > >> Subject: Re: [HCDX] Report on Radio Clube do Para 4885 > >> > >> David, > >> > >> I agree completely but there's no subtle way of getting the attention of > >> some people other than being direct. Like I stated previously, please > >> disregard my post about 4885. It's just a shame that certain logging > >> information posted isn't more credible with investigation being done > first, > >> not just to post. > >> > >> At least Glen H., and other DXers do their homework first or ask a > >> question instead of making unfounded statements. Again, please > disregard my > >> post please! > >> > >> > >> John C. > >> > >> > >> On Sep 11, 2017, at 11:13 AM, david goren <shortwaveol...@mac.com< > mailto: > >> shortwaveol...@mac.com>> wrote: > >> > >> Hi John: > >> > >> Certainly, I don’t think you were being intentionally unfair to > Paul…more > >> using a figure of speech. He does frequently jump to conclusions and > ignore > >> the cumulative wisdom of other dx’ers. > >> > >> I was hoping to send a subtle message to Paul that this information was > >> already out there, through sources that he disdains like Glenn. No > doubt a > >> wasted effort. > >> > >> 73, > >> > >> David > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:52 AM, WHO DARES WINS <broadwin...@msn.com > <mailto: > >> broadwin...@msn.com>> wrote: > >> > >> I wasn't trying to be unfair but if your making statements perhaps you > >> should check with the station first? That sounds like the professional > and > >> fair thing to do before making statements without fact? I'm not trying > to > >> flame anyone! > >> > >> Disregard my previous post re: 4885. My post was made on reception of > this > >> station I personally have picked up as seasonally they have always come > in > >> better after Summer. > >> > >> > >> John C. > >> > >> > >> On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:42 AM, david goren <shortwaveol...@mac.com< > mailto: > >> shortwaveol...@mac.com>> wrote: > >> > >> Well to be fair to Paul, Clube do Para was off air earlier in the summer > >> per Glenn Hauser and other reports due to an ownership dispute. They > have > >> been sounding better than in recent years so perhaps some maintenance > was > >> done as well. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:34 AM, WHO DARES WINS <broadwin...@msn.com > <mailto: > >> broadwin...@msn.com>> wrote: > >> > >> BRAZIL. Radio Clube do Para, 4885, Belem, in Portuguese, is and has > been a > >> easy regular DX daily catch in South Central, Pa., and other SW DXers in > >> Pennsylvania report it frequently. > >> > >> With the change over in seasons from Sumner to Fall, the reception > quality > >> always has increased during the past years I've listened for them. It is > >> one of the Tropical Band stations you can always depend on DXing and > >> hearing at a Poor-Fair level in the Summer to Fair-Good in the Fall, > Winter > >> and Spring without fail. > >> > >> It's been reported daily, weekly, and monthly in SW blogs as a normal > >> catch. 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