I do not believe a text version is a viable option unless you are willing to
live the version of VistA you implement and plan to not install any of the
VistA patches that are released subsequent to that date.  Also, you realize
that the CPRS developers stopped putting enhancements and improvements into
the ListManager version of CPRS (what you call the text version) several
years ago.  Again, if you are satisfied with the functionality of the old
ListManager version then fine.  But do not expect all the new features added
to the CPRS GUI version to show up in the ListManager version.  They won't.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "CS Wagner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Vista without CPRS


> I would be interested in looking at a text version of CPRS, but it is my
> understanding that CPRS does not allow you to add patients.  So, I will
> still need to set up accounts in Vista for the clerks to SSH in and
> easily add patients as well as add visits for existing patients.  With a
> text version of CPRS running through SSH, I can set that up as the
> default shell for physicians and nurses - understanding that in many of
> the smaller sites the nurse is also the clerk, so they will need to be
> able to quit CPRS and quickly get into Vista to add patients.
>  -Shaun
>
> Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
>
> >There is a text version of the CPRS if you can connect
> >to your server via telnet or ssh.  Let me know if you
> >are interested.  Its probably not what people want
> >right now.
> >
> >
> >Kevin
> >
> >
> >--- CS Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Our problem is that we have a firewall on our
> >>network where the Vista
> >>server is.  The client side has a firewall also
> >>where CPRS is.  CPRS
> >>requires a connection from the server to the client
> >>on a randomly
> >>generated port.  To allow for that, we'd have to
> >>basically remove the
> >>entire client-side firewall.  Sure, we can only
> >>ports 5,000 and up, but
> >>that's still a huge hole in the firewall.
> >>
> >>We tried the VPN route, but that led to yet another
> >>issue.  The server's
> >>network does have VPN, but it is highly restricted.
> >>There is a lot of
> >>paperwork involved in getting an account set up.
> >>Once done, we'd have
> >>another problem - the client's computer won't be
> >>able to use the
> >>client-side network anymore.  That means that they'd
> >>have to have a CPRS
> >>computer on VPN and a regular computer off the VPN
> >>for everything else.
> >>
> >>As for tunneling on SSH, that would be the #1
> >>solution if CPRS ran well
> >>on Linux.  We could tunnel into the Vista server on
> >>port 22 and display
> >>the X-CPRS on the client's machine.  We could also
> >>upgrade CPRS easily
> >>by only upgrading it on the server and not going
> >>client to client.  But,
> >>the major dawback is getting CPRS to run on Linux
> >>without paying out so
> >>much money that we'd be better of buying some other
> >>EMR system.
> >>
> >> -Shaun
> >>
> >>Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>What is the issue regarding your network
> >>>
> >>>
> >>security...it will be good to
> >>
> >>
> >>>know should others have a similar setup?
> >>>
> >>>And dumb question...did you try setting up a VPN
> >>>
> >>>
> >>and tunneling...??
> >>
> >>
> >>>Joseph
> >>>
> >>>On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 10:32, CS Wagner wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>It is becoming clear that we cannot use CPRS with
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>our network security.
> >>
> >>
> >>>>Is it possible to effectively use Vista without
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>CPRS?  I can easily set
> >>
> >>
> >>>>up SSH accounts for each user so that gtm starts
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>when the login.  I
> >>
> >>
> >>>>assume that setting the primary menu in Vista will
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>change what they see
> >>
> >>
> >>>>once gtm starts.  I just don't know what menus to
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>give the different
> >>
> >>
> >>>>people (nurses, providers, clerks...).  I also
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>haven't found user's
> >>
> >>
> >>>>documentation.  Everything is directed toward the
> >>>>administrator/programmer, not the average user.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>So, I'm afraid I'll
> >>
> >>
> >>>>have to set aside a lot of time to write
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>documentation while I'm trying
> >>
> >>
> >>>>to learn what to do.
> >>>>
> >>>>What I'm trying to get done right now:
> >>>>* Have a provider SSH in and immediately get to a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>patient selection
> >>
> >>
> >>>>screen where he can view/edit patient info
> >>>>* Give nurses the same menu - is there any
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>function for a nurse to
> >>
> >>
> >>>>hand-off the patient to a provider without having
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>the nurse log off and
> >>
> >>
> >>>>having the provider log back in and select the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>same patient?
> >>
> >>
> >>>>* Have clerks SSH in and immediately get to a
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>screen to add patients or
> >>
> >>
> >>>>schedule visits for existing patients.
> >>>>
> >>>>If I can get to that point, my history has
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>included years of making
> >>
> >>
> >>>>graphical front-ends for telnet/ssh menus (written
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>in Cobol and/or
> >>
> >>
> >>>>Ada).  I will be able to do the same for this
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>without the loop-back
> >>
> >>
> >>>>security headache of CPRS.
> >>>>
> >>>>-Shaun
> >>>>
> >>>>
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