This thread seems to have gained attention. As someone who has flirted with MUMPS since 1975 and actively tested it since 1985, I don't get a sense of what I would call animosity. Nor do I get much of a warm fuzzy feeling. This just seems a fact, as the most active participants are working with Linux/GTM. Not that I can blame them. It should be a free list of those interested in VistA on any OS.
Cache has been nice to me, in that I can run several testing/training platforms and older versions of my productions along side each other, with, seemingly, no performance hit. Training is especially nice, in that I can move a Cache.Dat file to another folder and allow learners to practice on "real but out of use" data with no fear of data damage. Perhaps the same options are available with other systems. I just haven't had a chance to test the concept. I would like to put more time in the GTM Linux, platform, however, I am frantically working to get a production/conversion turned around by the turn of the year and don't have the luxury of learning a new OS, new M dialect, and a new look and feel. So I will take what I find here, pitch in when I feel moved to do so, and watch the world slide by. Not so bad if one isn't deeply invested in whom does what. Most of all, I am grateful to the founders and maintainers of HardHats and shall remain eternally indebted. Thanks, thurman > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry Wiechmann > Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 3:20 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Intersystems > > Let me state it even more strongly - without Intersystems, MUMPS will > truly > be dead. It's imperative that they and their users get more actively > involved in the Open VistA movement - they can bring a great deal of > credibility to the movement. Personally, I use Cache for all my current > development. Its evolved into a sophisticated system that provides all the > productivity tools a programmer needs to get the job done. They should be > proud of it. > > It's not an either/or situation between the Open Source and commercial > endeavor. Any organization that wants to participate and take advantage of > Open Source must also have products to sell. Not only would the Open VistA > world benefit from Intersystems being involved more actively, Intersystems > will benefit - it's a synergy. > > Terry L. Wiechmann > www.esitechnology.com > 978-779-0257 > Skype: twiechmann > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Gray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 12:57 PM > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Intersystems > > > > I will put it stronger. I wish we could do more to encourage > Intersystem > > and Cache users to post on this list. I personally have been taken > aback > by > > the serious animosity toward Intersystems that has been posted on this > list. > > My guess is that it is only a few people expressing a lot of animosity. > > Jim > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Nancy E. Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 5:32 PM > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Crash on D ^ZU > > > > > > I do. ;-) > > > > On Thursday 09 December 2004 10:27 am, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: > > > Bob, > > > > > > ..."lots of animosity against InterSystems"... > > > > > > I prefer the OpenSource solution of GTM, but I would > > > never say that I have animosity against InterSystems. > > > You've always been helpful. I hope others feel the > > > same. > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > --- "Robert M. Witkop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > VA employees can get developers licenenses from > > > > InterSystems. Others who > > > > want to develop VistA applications on Cache can send > > > > me an email (off > > > > the group - lots of animosity against InterSystems) > > > > with their > > > > information and I will get it to an account manager > > > > and provide them > > > > with a temporary (renewable) license and licensed > > > > version of Cache. > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2004-12-08 at 20:13, Takahiro Horie wrote: > > > > > I commented out that line. I restarted from Step > > > > > > > > 32 and on Step 38 I ran > > > > > > > > > into a problem. > > > > > > > > > > I'm supposed to add the line "Q 99 ; Dummy return > > > > > > > > for Cache 5", but the > > > > > > > > > source code is: > > > > > > > > > > --- snippet --- > > > > > > > > > > ;To get available jobs from Cache 5.0 > > > > > I v'<5 D Q AVJ > > > > > . X "S ZOSV=$ZU(5),%=$ZU(5,""%SYS"") S > > > > > AVJ=$system.License.LUAvailable(),%=$ZU(5,ZOSV)" > > > > > ;Return fixed value not known version > > > > > Q 15 > > > > > ; > > > > > PRIINQ() ; > > > > > Q 8 > > > > > > > > > > --- endsnippet --- > > > > > > > > > > Do I change the "Q 15" to "Q 99" ? I'm not sure > > > > > > > > what to do. > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Takahiro > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 09:16:01PM -0500, Nancy E. > > > > > > > > Anthracite wrote: > > > > > > That appears to come from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ;The next line keeps sign-on users from taking > > > > > > > > the last slot > > > > > > > > > > ;It can be commented out if not needed. > > > > > > JOBCHK I $$AVJ^%ZOSV()<3 W $C(7),!!,"** TROUBLE > > > > > > > > ** - ** CALL IRM NOW! **" G > > > > > > > > > > HALT > > > > > > > > > > > > ... so I guess it probably has to do with the > > > > > > > > Cache Jobs and something must > > > > > > > > > > have gone wrong when you did step 38. Can you > > > > > > > > go back and try that again? > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday 08 December 2004 04:31 pm, Takahiro > > > > > > > > Horie wrote: > > > > > > > I'm trying to install VistA following the > > > > > > > > instructions on for the > > > > > > > > > > > Cache/Windows install guide. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Step 91, when I type D ^ZU, I get an error > > > > > > > > message > > > > > > > > > > > ** TROUBLE ** - ** CALL IRM NOW! ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And the terminal window closes itself > > > > > > > > automatically. > > > > > > > > > > > I tried to re-open the terminal and I entered: > > > > > > > USER>D ^%CD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namespace: VISTA > > > > > > > You're in namespace VISTA > > > > > > > Default directory is c:\cachesys\mgr\vista\ > > > > > > > VISTA> D ^ZU > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I get the same error message again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any ideas what to do so I can complete the > > > > > > > > installation? > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > Takahiro > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product > > > > > > > > Guide > > > > > > > > > > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT > > > > > > > > Products from real users. > > > > > > > > > > > Discover which products truly live up to the > > > > > > > > hype. 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