Now this is the stuff that I do know... :) Sentillion will give you a license for software integration and development against any of their CCOW installations. The VA has a license for Sentillion CCOW on the enterprise, so I (the vendor) don't have to pay to use CCOW (outside a nominal one-time fee).
But as a hospital, you'd have to license CCOW for your site which consists of not only client-side software but hardware running the "CCOW Vaults". These Vaults maintain CCOW Connection information and state across all your clients (and that's where your client-side software connects to). Now I don't know the costs for a hospital, but for someone integrating with an existing Sentillion site - it's not too bad at all. Now CCOW is not required for CPRS and VistA Imaging (yet). If you don't have the CCOW components installed, the software will bypass the CCOW check and continue working in "legacy". If a system (such as HealtheVet) requires CCOW access, we could work three solutions. 1) Remove CCOW and use another means of transferring the patient link. 2) Implement a different CCOW product (that's made from scratch or Open Source). 3) Talk to Sentillion. Thoughts? /David. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy E. Anthracite Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 10:21 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components In the past, Sentillion would send you a developers trial copy of the software. You have to fill out a form as I recall, then I think they call you and mail it to you if you pass muster. I got a copy once to use with VistAImaging, and then never got the Accusoft software so I haven't used it (yet?). It took quite a while to get it as I recall - I think something like 4-6 weeks,but I could be wrong about the that. On Sunday 26 December 2004 05:06 pm, Cameron Schlehuber wrote: > The CCOW components for VistA are all based on Sentillion work and have the > following notice at the beginning of all the documentation (which means > it's not available through FOIA): > > Notice to Government Users > The Sentillion product suite is commercial computer software that includes > commercial documentation, manuals, and related technical data. The > development of this commercial software was privately funded, with no > government funding, therefore, the only rights that the Government has to > this commercial computer software are those specified in the applicable > Government license agreement. The Software and documentation provided > therewith are provided with RESTRICTED RIGHTS. Use, duplication, or > disclosure by the United States Government is subject to the restrictions > as set forth in Federal Acquisition Regulation 12.212 for civilian agencies > and Defense Federal Acquisition Regulation 227.7202 for military agencies. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph > Dal Molin > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 2:47 PM > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components > > I think you can point Google to any website and search for things like > that ZIP file.... > > J. > > krishna meera wrote: > > Is any one know from which folder, i will get the file called > > OSLC_IG.ZIP from the ftp site of vista.I think it contains the > > instructions for installing ccow components > > > > krishna > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Nancy E. Anthracite" > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components > > Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:50:46 +0000 > > > > > Please look at my email of 12-25 at 11:47 and Fil Beza's email that > > > immediately follow it RE the MPI and calling Austin. Go to this > > site.http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=hardhats-members > > > > There is a search function here as well, so you will often be able to > > > > find > > > > > answers to questions that have to do with CPRS, etc., that way. > > > Unfortunately, there is not much about HealteVet Desktop as that is a > > > relatively new subject. I understand that HealtheVet desktop has > > > > relatively > > > > > limited functionality at this time and there will not be a full > > > fledged replacement for CPRS done in Java by the VA until the middle > > > of next > > > > year at > > > > > the best, so you might consider using CPRS for now if you are > > > > planning to try > > > > > to do anything with it any time soon. I noted there are something in > > the > > > > order of 1600 RPC Broker calls. There is a lot of work to be done yet. > > > > > > Also, to find out about adding a physician and giving him the proper > > > > keys and > > > > > permissions, look at http://www.geocities.com/kdtop3/ and the > > > > Post-Install > > > > > notes section. I will send you another document that is only partially > > > complete and I will also send Kevin to put on his site that includes > > > my initial explorations of the Clinical Coordinators job, person class > > > and provider class, or something like that. I think giving yourself > > > the > > > > ORES key > > > > > and assigning provider status in file 200 will help. > > > > > > On Sunday 26 December 2004 10:33 am, rev athy wrote: > > > > Iam trying to install the Healthevet desktop framework in vista, > > > > using the cache database,vistalink also installed > > > > At the time of adding a patient where the datas are saving ? in > > > > Austin or in the localhost M'server? > > > > > > > > After adding the patient also the healthevet desktop shows as 'no > > > > patient found" is it because of not admitting the patient ? i tried > > > > that also but at the end of the admitting process it asks for a" > > > > PRIMARY PHYSICIAN:" I added a provider to it but its not taking, it > > > > says > > > > > > "select active providers only" > > > > which command gives us the active providers ? > > > > > > > > at the time of adding a patient also it shows the error like "Could > > > > not connect to MPI or Timed Out". > > > > > > > > what we have to do to install the CCOW components in HealtheVet > > > > Desktop > > > > > > framework? Is there any documentation? do i need any other > > > > configuration to > > > > > > get the chart view in healthevet desktop components > > > > > > > > can anyone help me > > > > > > > > revathy > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Nancy E. Anthracite" > > > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components > > > > Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 15:08:39 -0500 > > > > > > > > > Believe me, you do not want to connect to Austin. That is the US > > > > > Department of Veteran's Affairs Master Patient Index. Eventually, > > > > you > > > > > > > may want your own MPI. For now, let it time out, and I am sure > > > > someone > > > > > > > will post a solution to that problem. At one time, I found > > someplace > > > > > > where in the code the amount of time it was supposed to wait was > > > > entered > > > > > > > and I wondered if just making that very short would be sufficient > > > > > particularly as it would allow them to put in their own MPI > > > > sometime in > > > > > > > the future. Perhaps someone knows if this would suffice. > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday 25 December 2004 01:20 pm, rev athy wrote: > > > > > > kevin, > > > > > > when iam trying to connect to the clinicians dashboard i will be > > > > > > getting the following result.. ""......Attempting to connect to > > > > the > > > > > > > > Master Patient Index in Austin... If no SSN or inexact DOB or > > > > common > > > > > > > > name, this request may take some time, please be patient... > > > > > > > > > > > > Could not connect to MPI or Timed Out, assigning local ICN (if > > not > > > > > > > already assig ned)........."" > > > > > > > > > > > > How can i make a connection with Austin > > > > > > > > > > > > revathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Kevin Toppenberg" > > > > > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components > > > > > > Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:08:21 -0800 (PST) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nancy, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When you see the phrase "allows any language to use > > > > > > > Broker", this usually means that they have developed a > > > > > > > COM object. Most languages have methods to interface > > > > > > > with a COM object. If you are using visual basic, and > > > > > > > the COM object has been registered, then the object is > > > > > > > probably already available in VB. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Nancy E. Anthracite" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I noted this version of documentation for the Broker > > > > > > > > Development Kit that is a bit newer than what is on > > > > > > > > www.Hardhats.org and it mentions an API in there that > > > > "allows any > > > > > > > > > > language to use Broker". I don't know enough about this to > > > > know if > > > > > > > > > > this documentation will help, or even if it is significantly > > > > > > > > different from the 1997 documentation, but maybe it will > > > > > > > > help. > > > > There is more documentation in that same directory > > > > that might help > > > > > > > > > > > > as well. > > > > http://www.va.gov/vdl/VistA_Lib/Infrastructure/Remote_Proc_Call_Broke > > > > > > > > >r_(R PC)/xwb1_1p26dg.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday 25 December 2004 08:21 am, rev athy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > hello, > > > > > > > > > I installed cache database and now iam trying to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > integrate the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > caremanagement and cprs modules to HealtheVet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > desktop framework.I started > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the framework but not getting any patients to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > select from the database . I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > already added patients into the database now also > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it shows like "no patiens > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to select" then i can't be able to see the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > functionalities of that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > framework. But i added the perspectives using > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ORRCMM but patients are not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > getting , Now i will be in the middle way no idea > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what to do next with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it.can any one please help me to get out of this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > ammassurya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Nancy Anthracite > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > > > > > > > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT > > > > > > > > Products from real users. > > > > > > > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. > > > > > > > > Start reading now. > > > > > > > > http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > > > > > > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > > > > Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. 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