I completely, 100% agree that things like activation are a complete pain the butt... it's even worse with Quark software--even before activation (early 90s), they made you type in at least 3 20 digit/ letter combos to use the software... annoying as heck.

But at the same time, you say the current scheme is not good for business -- "greed." I don't really get that. If everyone bought all the software they were supposed to, there wouldn't be any problems. It's not like MS wants activation just to annoy people...whether it is EFFECTIVE or not is an entirely different question. I don't really see how it's "greed" that they want you people to actually have to buy their software to use it. If software companies want to try to enforce 1 sale = 1 usage, i think they're welcome to do it, but they should realize too the cost to those of us who don't steal and pirate. (maybe part of the reason I'm posting from a Mac! and why about 1/2 the computers at work are still win2k)

Scott

On Mar 30, 2007, at 10:55 AM, FORC5 wrote:

didn't seem to hurt profits much. >:-}
current anti piracy can be a pain. There is something terribly wrong when one wants to change a hard drive or video card ( in Vista )( I had to reactivate Vista when I stretched a 200gb partition to 250.) and have to call mother to ask permission. Especially when MS issues SW to Dell and the like that does not. Just restored a Dell with RTM sw, what a pleasure to not input a key or need to activate. And it was a genuine install disk, not a restore disk because I streamed sp2 into it.

I have a customer box on the bench who I replaced a MB 2 weeks ago, activation was painless but as luck would have it suffered crib death and I have to replace it again and windows will not even let me log on without first activating which I haven't done yet but will require a phone call which can be painless or a pain. I have only had them refuse one on a machine because I did not replace the MB with a exact factory replacement. SUCKS. Last week the system was down and I spent hours on the phone getting a system activated. Most customers have no idea about all of this and I certainly can not charge shop rate while waiting. I say the 70's and 80's was good for business and current scheme is not. ( greed )
fp

At 04:38 AM 3/30/2007, Hayes Elkins Poked the stick with:



From: FORC5 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Hardware List <hardware@hardwaregroup.com>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], The Hardware List <hardware@hardwaregroup.com> Subject: Re: [H] Is There A Hardware Solution To The Problem Of Windows Piracy?
Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:25:01 -0700

piracy is a farce create by BG who knows how to.
Want to stop piracy, allow ppl to own what they buy and install it as many time as they want. problem over. :-!

Last I checked this is how things were in the 70's and 80's. Not sure how well that strategy faired against piracy....

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