I've worked on many many many (did i mention many?) computers with a McAfee 
install that had the system's resources so tied up that it was virtually 
unusable. Often times it winds up being the Mcafee suite that is offered as 
courtesy through America Online. Sometimes it was due to a low amount of RAM 
and the added startup apps were pushing it over the top, but sometimes the 
machine was perfectly fine except for Mcafee. An uninstall of Mcafee would 
return the computer to normal and a re-install of Mcafee would send it back 
down the drain. They typically were switched to AVG Free Edition on the spot. I 
have these experiences with Norton as well and I never walk out the front door 
with out my flash drive that has the manual Norton uninstall tools and docs.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Currently I only recommend AVG, NOD32, Kaspersky, or CA's EZ AntiVirus 
(included with some internet services).

-Tharin Olsen

----- Original Message ----
From: Wayne Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:55:32 AM
Subject: Re: [H] Free AV ?


At 12:08 PM 1/11/2008, Robert Martin Jr. typed:
>I totally agree with Chris on this one. In the past 2-3 years I've 
>noticed severe bloat in both norton and mcafee. I've seen more 
>problems with both of these adversely affecting other software. I've 
>had to fix a lot of boxes that had problems caused solely by mcafee 
>(worse of the two IMHO) and norton software.

I respectfully disagree as I've had much more difficulty removing 
Symantec products that I have McAfee.




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