Good information, hadn't thought of that.  I'll have to look at the
architecture of the GTX280 and see what it is.  Since you mentioned
the GX2 as SLI, probably the GTX280 is not?  Got to look and see.  Of
course I'll also be watching to see if ATI will really solve their
problems with the 4870....

Steve

On 7/14/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The reason why the GTX280 and the 9800GX2 performance figures vary so wildly 
> is solely down to the game/benchmark being run.
>
> The GX2 is basically "SLI on a card" and as such falls foul of games that do 
> not run well in multi-GPU mode. Some games will give you almost twice the 
> performance for the second GPU, others give you next to nothing.
>
> Multi-GPU configs (whether 2 separate cards or "2 GPUs on a card") are only 
> ever useful if the games you play take proper advantage of them.
>
> Regards
> Jason
>
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From:         [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  On Behalf Of 
> > Steve Tomporowski
> > Sent: 13 July 2008 11:45
> > To:   hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> > Subject:      Re: [H] Fastest Nvidia Card???
> >
> > Interesting, sigh.  Seems to be the typical arguments for ATI:  It's
> > faster when it decides to work.
> >
> > Once I bought an ATI TV card because it was cheap.  The software
> > caused all sorts of problems, did not work like anybody would want it
> > to, and, to top it off, 99% of all 3rd party TV software did not
> > support it.  Needless to say it's sitting in a bag in the drawer.
> > And, no, they never updated the software.
> >
> > I really don't have a prejudice when buying hardware, however, when it
> > don't work, I don't feel the need to put any 'spin' on it.  My time is
> > valuable and a bargain is not a bargain (similarly 'best bang for the
> > buck' is not) when you have to put gobs of time into it and still not
> > have a lot of confidence it'll work.
> >
> > Back to the original question (slightly modified):  Which is really
> > faster the GTX280 or the 9800GX2?  Depending on the benchmark, they
> > seem to be all over the place.  Of course, each site that does
> > benchmarking uses different hardware, settings, software, etc.
> >
> >
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