Precisely the reason why I haven’t gotten an iphone. I hate the limitations and 
the hoops you have to jump through to do some basic things.

Thanks,
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Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM)
Sr. Security Researcher
Websense Security Labs
http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com 
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:25 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone?

Unless your device isn't allowed to have such pieces of software, like the
iPhone.

Which is why my iPhone is *cough* modified *cough*.

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Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation <http://www.secureworldfoundation.org>
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On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Mesdaq, Ali <ames...@websense.com> wrote:

> That’s not a limitation of this nokia. Anyone could write a SIP application
> in fact someone wrote something for Google voice already
> http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/dialcentral/
>
>
> Thanks,
> ------------------------------------------
> Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM)
> Sr. Security Researcher
> Websense Security Labs
> http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com
> ------------------------------------------
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:
> hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Robert Martin Jr.
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:00 AM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone?
>
> I like Nokia and have an N81. What I don't like is that Nokia has been
> pressured by mobile carriers to remove the built-in SIP support on all the
> newer models. When I walk in at home or at work my N81 auto sychs up with my
> asterisk server via wireless, and I can make totally free unlimited calls
> using google voice anywhere in the continental U.S. The phone becomes an
> extension to the system whenever internet connectivity is available.
>
> We got off monthly mobile plan to pay-per-minutes since we can still use
> the nokia phones through WiFi. Now I pay about $8 a month for my cellular
> service :)
>
> lopaka
>
> --- On Wed, 9/16/09, Mesdaq, Ali <ames...@websense.com> wrote:
>
> From: Mesdaq, Ali <ames...@websense.com>
> Subject: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone?
> To: "hardware@hardwaregroup.com" <hardware@hardwaregroup.com>
> Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 9:03 AM
>
> Has anyone seen the N9000 phone? I just read some reviews, specs, developer
> docs, and saw some videos on this phone and it seems amazing! Anyone have
> access to this phone or know of anyone with one? Seems like it's not
> released yet but usually phones find their way to the market early. In case
> you haven’t seen the phone here are some links
>
>
> http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/hands-on-nokia-n900-review-631040
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP5R-5NX1BE
>
>
> Quick highlights for me personally are
> - Debian based linux OS
> - Updates to everything over the air
> - Killer UI
> - Full flash support in a full Mozilla based browser
> - Very nice hardware specs in every facet i.e. camera, storage, processor,
> screen, graphics hardware accelerator, etc
> - Real multi tasking OS and interface
> - Get root shell on the device
>
> All in all this device seems to be created as a mobile computer because of
> Maemo's roots as a tablet PC OS. So the phone is just treated as a platform
> and hardware to run the OS. For example you can just not use the phone at
> all and make all your calls via Skype over Wifi or 3g connectivity. Looks
> like finally a no strings attached phone.
>
> Thanks,
> ------------------------------------------
> Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM)
> Sr. Security Researcher
> Websense Security Labs
> http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com
>
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>
>
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