Well, that's a bit over the top. As much as I don't like it, it's not unreasonable for AT&T to not allow an app that destroys its business model on a device that it controls.
I still haven't seen a single phone out there with an interface, software, and UI that can compare to the iPhone. So I'm willing to put up with a few minor issues in exchange for that. --------------------------- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation <http://www.secureworldfoundation.org> Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Mesdaq, Ali <ames...@websense.com> wrote: > Precisely the reason why I haven’t gotten an iphone. I hate the limitations > and the hoops you have to jump through to do some basic things. > > Thanks, > ------------------------------------------ > Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) > Sr. Security Researcher > Websense Security Labs > http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com > ------------------------------------------ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto: > hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:25 PM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone? > > Unless your device isn't allowed to have such pieces of software, like the > iPhone. > > Which is why my iPhone is *cough* modified *cough*. > > --------------------------- > Brian Weeden > Technical Advisor > Secure World Foundation <http://www.secureworldfoundation.org> > Montreal Office > +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada > +1 (202) 683-8534 US > > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Mesdaq, Ali <ames...@websense.com> wrote: > > > That’s not a limitation of this nokia. Anyone could write a SIP > application > > in fact someone wrote something for Google voice already > > http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/dialcentral/ > > > > > > Thanks, > > ------------------------------------------ > > Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) > > Sr. Security Researcher > > Websense Security Labs > > http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto: > > hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Robert Martin Jr. > > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:00 AM > > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > > Subject: Re: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone? > > > > I like Nokia and have an N81. What I don't like is that Nokia has been > > pressured by mobile carriers to remove the built-in SIP support on all > the > > newer models. When I walk in at home or at work my N81 auto sychs up with > my > > asterisk server via wireless, and I can make totally free unlimited calls > > using google voice anywhere in the continental U.S. The phone becomes an > > extension to the system whenever internet connectivity is available. > > > > We got off monthly mobile plan to pay-per-minutes since we can still use > > the nokia phones through WiFi. Now I pay about $8 a month for my cellular > > service :) > > > > lopaka > > > > --- On Wed, 9/16/09, Mesdaq, Ali <ames...@websense.com> wrote: > > > > From: Mesdaq, Ali <ames...@websense.com> > > Subject: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone? > > To: "hardware@hardwaregroup.com" <hardware@hardwaregroup.com> > > Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 9:03 AM > > > > Has anyone seen the N9000 phone? I just read some reviews, specs, > developer > > docs, and saw some videos on this phone and it seems amazing! Anyone have > > access to this phone or know of anyone with one? Seems like it's not > > released yet but usually phones find their way to the market early. In > case > > you haven’t seen the phone here are some links > > > > > > > http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/hands-on-nokia-n900-review-631040 > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP5R-5NX1BE > > > > > > Quick highlights for me personally are > > - Debian based linux OS > > - Updates to everything over the air > > - Killer UI > > - Full flash support in a full Mozilla based browser > > - Very nice hardware specs in every facet i.e. camera, storage, > processor, > > screen, graphics hardware accelerator, etc > > - Real multi tasking OS and interface > > - Get root shell on the device > > > > All in all this device seems to be created as a mobile computer because > of > > Maemo's roots as a tablet PC OS. So the phone is just treated as a > platform > > and hardware to run the OS. For example you can just not use the phone at > > all and make all your calls via Skype over Wifi or 3g connectivity. Looks > > like finally a no strings attached phone. > > > > Thanks, > > ------------------------------------------ > > Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) > > Sr. Security Researcher > > Websense Security Labs > > http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com > > >