What I love about the iPhone is that it can do everything I want in one device - play media, great games, surf the web with a full browser, phone calls, and a ton of search/info apps. It may not do any of those things very well, but the fact that it does them all and I can do a day business trip with just it is amazing.
Add a backup battery and long plane rides just fly by. --------------------------- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation <http://www.secureworldfoundation.org> Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:57 PM, Bino Gopal <binogo...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Well so I will say this having just gotten a 3GS last Thurs: > > I *LOOOOOOVE* the thing! The apps on it are amazing and I can do SOOO many > things that were just impossible/a pain with my WinMo 6.1 Samsung EPIX > (update Facebook easily with video and pics, check tweets, access amazon, > ebay, etc, and other cool utils and apps like a compass and all that). It's > just so much more usable and friendly and I seriously am loving the heck out > of it, and it works so much better than crappy WinMo6.1 too! > > I also compared it extensively with an Android phone that had a lot of > similar features, and it simply comes down to this: Apple is on their 3rd > rev of the SW and HW and it shows. Android is too new, but by their 3rd > rev, once the apps are out and better HW, I'll totally take a look at it; > I'm not tied to any one thing and these things die so quickly anyway that > I'll be replacing it in 1-2 years anyway. > > And yes, I don't like the limitations (and don't use iTunes for music, just > sync'ing/backing up the phone) but for the amount of usability/functionality > it gives you, it's worth it for now. If/when Android takes off, either > Apple will loosen up or I'll switch; the market will work in my favor. So > fwiw, I suggest you at least try it out and see what you're missing. The > apps and games are awesome and it works pretty well as a phone too! ;) > > BINO > > > -----Original Message----- > From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto: > hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Mesdaq, Ali > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:04 PM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone? > > I'm not so convinced of that. The openness google refers to when talking > about android is more about the web standards openness not really the > framework openness. But the hardware support for android is definitely > picking up and so are the apps. > > Thanks, > ------------------------------------------ > Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) > Sr. Security Researcher > Websense Security Labs > http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com > ------------------------------------------ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto: > hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:31 PM > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Cc: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > Subject: Re: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone? > > I think Android has the potential to be the phone/UI we want, but it's > going to be a few years of iterations to get there. > > > ------------- > Brian Weeden > Technical Advisor > Secure World Foundation > > On 2009-09-16, at 5:21 PM, "Mesdaq, Ali" <ames...@websense.com> wrote: > > > Yeah I agree with you on that and that’s why I haven’t really > > upgraded my phone for so long. Now that the iphone has set such a hi > > gh standard I require the phone to be as user friendly as the iphone > > and hardware as good. My basic requirements are > > - UI as good as iphone > > - hardware as good or better than iphone > > - no limitations or little limitations on what I can do on the phone > > > > If iphone was a little more open in that regard there would be no > > phone that can compare. > > > > AT&T has kinda been screwed by the iphone because users are > > demanding bandwidth but not willing to pay for it. So its been kind > > of a double edged sword for them. But lets make a clear distinction > > between AT&T mandated controls and Apple controls. Apple wants to > > control your life and I just want a phone that can do a bunch of > > things. > > > > Thanks, > > ------------------------------------------ > > Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) > > Sr. Security Researcher > > Websense Security Labs > > http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- > > boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden > > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:48 PM > > To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > > Subject: Re: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone? > > > > Well, that's a bit over the top. As much as I don't like it, it's not > > unreasonable for AT&T to not allow an app that destroys its business > > model > > on a device that it controls. > > > > I still haven't seen a single phone out there with an interface, > > software, > > and UI that can compare to the iPhone. So I'm willing to put up > > with a few > > minor issues in exchange for that. > > > > --------------------------- > > Brian Weeden > > Technical Advisor > > Secure World Foundation <http://www.secureworldfoundation.org> > > Montreal Office > > +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada > > +1 (202) 683-8534 US > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Mesdaq, Ali <ames...@websense.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Precisely the reason why I haven’t gotten an iphone. I hate the li > >> mitations > >> and the hoops you have to jump through to do some basic things. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> ------------------------------------------ > >> Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) > >> Sr. Security Researcher > >> Websense Security Labs > >> http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com > >> ------------------------------------------ > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto: > >> hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 12:25 PM > >> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > >> Subject: Re: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone? > >> > >> Unless your device isn't allowed to have such pieces of software, > >> like the > >> iPhone. > >> > >> Which is why my iPhone is *cough* modified *cough*. > >> > >> --------------------------- > >> Brian Weeden > >> Technical Advisor > >> Secure World Foundation <http://www.secureworldfoundation.org> > >> Montreal Office > >> +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada > >> +1 (202) 683-8534 US > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Mesdaq, Ali <ames...@websense.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> That’s not a limitation of this nokia. Anyone could write a SIP > >> application > >>> in fact someone wrote something for Google voice already > >>> http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/dialcentral/ > >>> > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> ------------------------------------------ > >>> Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) > >>> Sr. Security Researcher > >>> Websense Security Labs > >>> http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com > >>> ------------------------------------------ > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto: > >>> hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Robert Martin Jr. > >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:00 AM > >>> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com > >>> Subject: Re: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone? > >>> > >>> I like Nokia and have an N81. What I don't like is that Nokia has > >>> been > >>> pressured by mobile carriers to remove the built-in SIP support on > >>> all > >> the > >>> newer models. When I walk in at home or at work my N81 auto sychs > >>> up with > >> my > >>> asterisk server via wireless, and I can make totally free > >>> unlimited calls > >>> using google voice anywhere in the continental U.S. The phone > >>> becomes an > >>> extension to the system whenever internet connectivity is available. > >>> > >>> We got off monthly mobile plan to pay-per-minutes since we can > >>> still use > >>> the nokia phones through WiFi. Now I pay about $8 a month for my > >>> cellular > >>> service :) > >>> > >>> lopaka > >>> > >>> --- On Wed, 9/16/09, Mesdaq, Ali <ames...@websense.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> From: Mesdaq, Ali <ames...@websense.com> > >>> Subject: [H] Nokia N9000 The Ultimate Phone? > >>> To: "hardware@hardwaregroup.com" <hardware@hardwaregroup.com> > >>> Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 9:03 AM > >>> > >>> Has anyone seen the N9000 phone? I just read some reviews, specs, > >> developer > >>> docs, and saw some videos on this phone and it seems amazing! > >>> Anyone have > >>> access to this phone or know of anyone with one? Seems like it's not > >>> released yet but usually phones find their way to the market > >>> early. In > >> case > >>> you haven’t seen the phone here are some links > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/hands-on-nokia-n900-review-631040 > >>> > >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP5R-5NX1BE > >>> > >>> > >>> Quick highlights for me personally are > >>> - Debian based linux OS > >>> - Updates to everything over the air > >>> - Killer UI > >>> - Full flash support in a full Mozilla based browser > >>> - Very nice hardware specs in every facet i.e. camera, storage, > >> processor, > >>> screen, graphics hardware accelerator, etc > >>> - Real multi tasking OS and interface > >>> - Get root shell on the device > >>> > >>> All in all this device seems to be created as a mobile computer > >>> because > >> of > >>> Maemo's roots as a tablet PC OS. So the phone is just treated as a > >> platform > >>> and hardware to run the OS. For example you can just not use the > >>> phone at > >>> all and make all your calls via Skype over Wifi or 3g > >>> connectivity. Looks > >>> like finally a no strings attached phone. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> ------------------------------------------ > >>> Ali Mesdaq (CISSP, GIAC-GREM) > >>> Sr. Security Researcher > >>> Websense Security Labs > >>> http://www.WebsenseSecurityLabs.com > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Protected by Websense Hosted Email Security -- www.websense.com > >>> > >> > >
