Greg (winterlight/Forc5),
Thank you for your insightful shares. Over this past 2-3 days I have learned a lot about SSD. o Does not work well in XP, works in win7. Been there, tried this, did not work, yet!
o Uses 'over-provisioning; woe be to those who dick with this!
o AHCI required !
OK, I do have 2 SSDs (AHCI) operational (Samsung 840pro-128GB). One runs win7pro-64, one runs win8.1pro-64.

May I please ask about 'secure-erase?' I have read this term used, but nobody shares how to do/use it. I have a Crucial MX100-128GB SSD in hand. It is only mechanically installed in my 'TEST' PC. I rcvd it from my OB. OB seems to be stuck in the EM drive paradigm. Whatever. I do know that OB installed this device, and, did try to install an OS to it. Never happened. He sent the SSD to me. I tried to install an OS on it also.
Never happened.  Now I sit and wonder if this SSD is really broken?
I've gone to Crucial and peeked/poked. Odd that Crucial Support seems not to even recognize the MX100 series.
?Opinions?

I'd sill like to try and install an OS on this drive.
Yes, this SSD is seen in the bios of this C2D PC (Asus P5Q3, 2GB ram). Sadly, the processor also has one dead
core. Yes, this PC is first to be gutted/rebuilt!
Thanks for reading,
Duncan

On 08/02/2014 22:34, Greg Sevart wrote:
ALL SSDs have reserved capacity that no software can access and no utilities
can even quantify. Samsung allows you to increase this overprovisioned area
even more if you so desire (probably mostly for people irrationally
concerned about SSD wearout). They absolutely, positively do not reduce the
user capacity by a single byte from the label capacity unless you instruct
the software to do so. Any belief or statement otherwise is quite simply
incorrect.

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From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf
Of FORC5
Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2014 9:15 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] SSD and XP ?

but crucial does not use space that can be used.
I do like the sw and it has a function to optimize on OS without trim.
confusing for these old grey cells.

used to be more fun.

At 06:44 PM 8/2/2014, James Boswell Poked the stick with:
FYI, the any SSD (Crucial included) has overprovisioning of flash to
allow for graceful cell failure management.

Samsung expose it in an adjustable fashion, you COULD minimise the
overprovision amount, but I'd say it's a very very very bad idea.

-James


On 2 August 2014 20:22, FORC5 <fuf...@cox.net> wrote:

kind of figured that, suppose I could clone it off and back.
drive is a Crucial ( I think) need to look at that. I like Samsung
except they use drive space for a OP partition. 10% recommended. bad
to loose space. Do like their sw, Crucial claims they are working on
some.
Any after market SW you can recommend ?
Already dl'ed AVG to replace MSE. Not sure what else to do.

So far have found some win32/trojans according to ESET. scan not done
yet.
hate working on antiques. :-)
thanks
fp
At 12:08 PM 8/2/2014, Greg Sevart Poked the stick with:

Date:  Saturday, August 2nd, 2014

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