Mas Guntur... Saya sudah meditasikan bberpa lama semenjk berdoa meminta petunjuk siapa yang bersedia menjdi penghubung dgn hu international...karena ini memng penting..dan mas Guntur punya Jiwa demikian,,,silahkn direnungkan mas , karen HU memng akan menjadi tumbuh bila didukung orang2 yang jauh dari sifat adigang adigung adiguna,..nggak ada istilah nggak becus mas,dan yang tahu kemuan kit pmrih atu nggak itu hanya diri dan Sang SUmber..,semua perlu kemauan saja,,,,dan saya me rasa mas Guntur Siap,...
Salam Hangat Salam Sejati 2008/10/13 A. Guntur Dwiyatmoko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Dear HUers, > > Mas Dodo yang baik, kalau memang diperlukan ya saya siap mengemban > amanah... Hanya sepertinya mas Edo kemarin mengutarakan masalah tertarik > atau tidak, saya hanya bertanya ke diri sendiri apakah sudah cukup > mumpuni... wong dalam banyak hal saya merasa belum becus... > > salam harmonis, > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* dohan satria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *To:* harmonisasi-universal@googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Saturday, October 11, 2008 2:54 PM > *Subject:* [HU] Re: View this page "HU FAQs" > > Mas Guntur,.. > Saya ikut dukung dan setuju sekali memang perlu utk ini utk jadi jubir > menemani m.Rustan,. > > Utk mas Edo...betul ,..jgn menjadi Dogma malah mebbelenggui kebebasan.... > > Salam Sejati > > > > 2008/10/11, A. Guntur Dwiyatmoko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> >> Dear Mas Edo, >> >> ooopss.. mohon maaf sekaligus terima kasih pencerahannya mas. Kayaknya >> juga >> bagian2 lain musti dibaca ulang dengan teliti. Wah, tadinya saya pikir New >> Age itu cuman ada satu gerakan hehehe.. katrok tenan... dan I think >> dibilang >> New Age itu hanya pemberian nama saja dari western, sementara di timur, >> praktik spiritualism sudah dilakukan bahkan sebelum diberi label 'agama >> ini >> agama itu', well, anyway, saya coba terjemahkan koreksi mas Edo ya.. >> >> _____________ >> >> HU isn't a part of any religion nor a new religion. HU is a Spiritual >> Community, Spiritual Movement that could be categorized as a part of New >> Age >> Movements. As a movement, HU distincts in nature, form, or characteristics >> from many New Age Movements. It has no organization, no leader, or rules >> even dogma. HU is a group of people seeking divinity in a way other than >> any >> formal religion's practices. That brings HU spread all over the world. >> Maybe >> it is a good time to know the description of New Age Movement: >> >> "New Age Movement, broad-based amalgam of diverse spiritual, social, and >> political elements with the common aim of transforming individuals and >> society through spiritual awareness. Comprising individuals, activist >> groups, businesses, professional groups, and spiritual leaders and >> followers, the movement brought feminist, ecological, spiritual, and >> human-potential concerns into the mainstream in the 1980s and 1990s, >> creating a large market in the United States and other countries for >> books, >> magazines, audio- and videotapes, workshops, retreats, and expositions on >> the subject, as well as for natural foods, crystals, and meditation and >> healing aids. >> >> Often seen as resurgent paganism or Gnosticism, the modern movement has >> more >> recent roots in 19th-century spiritualism and in the 1960s counterculture, >> which rejected materialism in favor of Eastern mysticism and preferred >> direct spiritual experience to organized religion. Techniques for >> self-improvement and the idea that the individual is responsible for and >> capable of everything from self-healing to creating the world, have found >> applications in health care and counseling as well as in sports, the armed >> forces, and corporations and have provoked debate in religious and other >> circles. >> >> Holistic thinking has influenced attitudes about medicine, the >> environment, >> the family, work, regional planning, and world peace, among others. Ideas >> frequently associated with the New Age movement include anthroposophical >> teachings, inner transformation, reincarnation, extraterrestrial life, >> biofeedback, chanting, alchemy, yoga, transpersonal psychology, shamanism, >> martial arts, the occult, astrology, psychic healing, extrasensory >> perception, divination, astral travel, acupuncture, massage, tarot, Zen, >> mythology, and visualization. (source: MSN Encarta Encyclopedia) >> >> >> One of the differences from some of New Age Movements, HU is not rejecting >> any religion. Still, HU bears mutual respect in religion's teaching. In >> religion, you may find spiritualism and a religion could be a good source >> for spiritualism. But spiritualism itself is broader and wider than >> religions. Spiritualism is a human longing for God, the universal need of >> God, which still may stay dormant in the every heart of human. >> >> ______________ >> >> >> salam harmonis, >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "si Brewok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Harmonisasi Universal" <harmonisasi-universal@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 12:27 PM >> Subject: [HU] Re: View this page "HU FAQs" >> >> >> >> mas Gun, setelah aku baca ternyata ada satu yg agak mengganggu: ini yg >> sampeyan terjemahkan: >> >> "HU is a spiritual community, but not a part of any religion or >> movement >> including New Age blabla.. " >> >> komentar: HU memang bukan bagian dari agama namun dia adalah bagian >> dari New Age Movement, movement itu sendiri bukan sebuah movement yg >> terorganize, yg punya leaders, yg ada AD/ART-nya, dan punya aturan >> baku serta dogma yg harus diikuti... tapi lebih pada sebuah pergerakan >> spiritualisme (di western world) yg mencari ketuhanan / divinity di >> luar tubuh agama2 formal dan akhirnya pergerakan ini melebarkan >> sayapnya ke seluruh dunia. Kerinduan menemukan jati diri manusia dan >> kemanusiaan ini yg membuat banyak yg menjadi seekers di dunia barat >> sono ^_^ >> >> FYI: Satanism juga bagian dari New age movement, dan ini yg membuat >> kalangan Church punya stigma negatif pada gerakan tsb. >> >> sampeyan juga menerjemahkan: >> >> "Different from New Age Movement, HU is not rejecting any religion. >> Still, HU >> bears mutual respect in religion's teaching" >> >> komentar: New age movement sendiri amat beragam, dari yg paling >> tolerance sampe yg paling ekstrim. ada yg masih menerima dan respect >> pada agama2, tapi ada juga yg menolak agama2 tsb mentah.-mentah. Jadi >> mungkin lebih tepat diterjemahkan kalu HU sebagai bagian dari New Age >> movement mengambil posisi respect pada ajaran2 agama besar tsb. >> >> Namaste.. >> Good Translation! >> >> >> On Oct 11, 11:39 am, si Brewok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > ++ Wow bagus sekali mas Guntur, akan segera saya forwardkan dalam >> > bentuk file PDF ke milis HU int'l dan di bagian International Pillar >> > akan saya tambahkan nama2 moderator milis yang bule2 itu :D atau >> > mungkin mas Guntur tertarik jadi jubir international kita selain mas >> > Rustan tentunya? >> > >> > L.O.V.E >> > >> > On Oct 10, 3:38 pm, "A. Guntur Dwiyatmoko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > > Dear HUers, >> > >> > > Mas Edo, FAQ nya bagus, ini saya coba iseng bikin terjemahan >> inggrisnya >> > > buat >> > > HU internasional, masih butuh koreksi sana sini deh kayaknya...semoga >> > > bermanfaat >> > >> > > salam harmonis, >> >> >> >> --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Quote: ** In this age of Aquarius, science will become religious, and religion will become scientific. Disagreements between science and religion will come to an end, and people will begin to comprehend that both spirit and matter are derived from the same source, and are only modifications of the One Universal Energy ** -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
