I don't know anything about Weldon's situation, but I know many
people who, because of their employment situation, are restricted as
to what software source code they are permitted to look at and still
continue the work they do for their employer.
This is a reason why getting our legal framework right is so
important - we want to enable the largest community possible.
geir
On Jul 6, 2005, at 4:30 PM, Baker, Tony wrote:
Uh...
Weldon Washburn, individual contributor, just tipped his hand. As an
individual contributor, why would you need permission?
tjb
-----Original Message-----
From: Weldon Washburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 7:18 AM
To: Robin Garner
Cc: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Minutes of First Harmony Meeting
On 7/4/05, Robin Garner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I don't know where you get the idea that downloading JikesRVM or any
component thereof 'contaminates' you.
I may be wrong on the contamination issue. The real issue is that I
do not have permission to download anything but Apache licensed code.
The e-mail you refer to talks
about redistributing a work derived from a CPL-ed work as part of an
Apache distribution.
Exactly. Harmony won't bundle non-Apache code with its download. The
goal is a complete Apache licensed JVM stack that works right out of
the box. This includes a GC. If Harmony modularization is
successful, third parties can plug in non-Apache components such as a
GC from Jikes, Rotor, Sun, etc.
While MMTk is a component of JikesRVM, it is maintained by a distinct
subgroup of the JikesRVM community. If Harmony were to use MMTk, I'm
sure we could make it available under an appropriate license.
In any case, the development model of MMTk is to be portable, as
reflected in the Rotor and JNode ports, and to maintain a common code
base for all platforms it supports. There would then be no issue of
distributing a derived work.
Can't you just work on the same basis as people are with Classpath -
just proceed as though the license issues will eventually be worked
out ?
Unfortunately, I am not allowed to proceed until the license issues
are worked out.
Regards,
Robin
On Mon, 2005-07-04 at 22:17 -0700, Weldon Washburn wrote:
Unfortunately, I am not allowed to download JikesRVM at this time.
Since I can't download Jikes, I did the next best thing -- a Google
search. As far as I can tell, MMTK is part of JikesRVM and does not
exist as a stand-alone entity. Is this correct?
Also, the following mail archive says that Apache has issues with
CPL
code:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/
200503.mbox/%3C26
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Does MMTK exist under any other license? I'd like to look at the
MMTK/VM interface(s) but don't know how to do this without becoming
contaminated. Does anyone have any ideas?
Thanks
Weldon
On 7/1/05, Daniel Feinberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I can't find the license to MMTK. Can you post a pointer?
If you download JikesRVM you can see in the MMTK directory that
it is
licenced under CPL or the Common Public Licence.
This is quoted from the licence file supplied with MMTK:
MMTk is free, open source software, distributed and freely
redistributable under the Common Public License (CPL). The CPL has
been certified by the Open Source Initiative as an open source
license. The CPL meets the Debian Free Software Guidelines.
--
Daniel Feinberg
http://www.cs.unm.edu/~danielf
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Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
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