Nathan Beyer wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Geir Magnusson Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> This is a fun thread. I plan to read it from end to end later today and >> comment. >> >> Initial thoughts are that I've been wanting to use TestNG for months >> (hence my resistance to any JUnit deps more than we needed to) and >> second, annotations won't solve our problems. More later :) >> > > I find this to be an extremely interesting comment. What value do you see > TestNG offering? Most of the conversations pushing for TestNG as a solution > have been all about the annotations.
I meant "all our problems" :) I've been suggesting being open to TestNG for a while now, for the reason that it's "second generation", written by people I know and trust who have had to use it in anger - they were scratching their own itch. I like a bunch of small things, like not having to extend a base class, dependent test methods, pluggability, parameterized tests, and the annotations, but I haven't used it -it's all academic for me so far. So while I like the annotations, and expect we can use them effectively, I have an instinctive skepticism of annotations right now because in general (in general in Java), I'm not convinced we've used them enough to grok good design patterns. Now since I still haven't read the thread fully, I'm jumping to conclusions, taking it to the extreme, etc etc, but my thinking in writing the above is that if we bury everything about our test 'parameter space' in annotations, some of the visible organization we have now w/ on-disk layout becomes invisible, and the readable "summaries" of aspects of testing that we'd have in an XML metadata document (or whatever) also are hard because you need to scan the sources to find all instances of annotation "X". Anyway, I wanted this to be a short note to address your concern, but I don't seem to be able to do that :) More later. geir --------------------------------------------------------------------- Terms of use : http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/mailing.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
