I forgot the dictionary tallies of preceding messages. I have only Alcalay, from which I conclude that we are not here Romanizing a Greek letter. We are, rather, Romanizing a Hebrew word. My Alcalay edition treats pesefas and deramah as Hebrew vocabulary words, vocalizing the first consonant with a sheva, which it does not do for psikholog. This is not a question of etymology, but of usage. I think that Israeli speakers pronounce the sheva of pesafas if only because that helps them accent the final syllable (unfortunately they ignore a lot of other mobile shevas, ones thatwe do -- and do not -- regard in our Romanizing).
JR Jay Rovner, PhD Manuscript Bibliographer The Library of The Jewish Theological Seminary 5501 Library 3080 Broadway New York City, New York 10027 (212) 678-8045 Please note: The JTS Library’s archives are temporarily to accommodate packing of our Special Collections in advance of our rebuilding project. The archives will reopen on January 4, 2016, in the Temporary Library located on the 7th floor of JTS’s Kripke and Schiff buildings. The Special Collections are closed for approximately four years. Reference services for the Special Collections will continue throughout this period. Please be sure to check for digital copies of manuscripts and rare books. For help in finding what you might need, please email sadiam...@jtsa.edu<mailto:sadiam...@jtsa.edu> or s...@jtsa.edu<mailto:s...@jtsa.edu> with Special Collections requests, or our reference librarians<mailto:libr...@jtsa.edu> or visit the Library’s website<http://www.jtsa.edu/The_Library.xml>. From: Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Jasmin Shinohara Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 3:53 PM To: heb-naco@lists.osu.edu Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] Romanization Question Agreed, Neil. Barry noted the fact that the Greek word starts with a psi. Does that make any difference to how we want to treat it? On 11/9/2015 3:31 PM, Neil Manel Frau-Cortes wrote: … which kind of shows that the issue is not very well solved, IMHO. Neil M. Frau-Cortes, Ph.D. Judaica, Hebraica and Metadata Cataloger McKeldin Library University of Maryland College Park, MD 20742 Phone (301) 405-9337 nf...@umd.edu<mailto:nf...@umd.edu> From: Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu] On Behalf Of Yossi Galron Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 3:23 PM To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] Romanization Question Heidi, I believe our practice was Pesefas and not Psefas. Yossi On Nov 9, 2015 3:21 PM, "Heidi G Lerner" <ler...@stanford.edu<mailto:ler...@stanford.edu>> wrote: Based on the conversation I agree with Yosi. Unless there is strong disagreement we shall romanize פסיפס as "psefas" Best, Heidi Heidi G. Lerner Metadata Librarian for Hebraica and Judaica Metadata Dept. Stanford University Libraries Stanford, CA 94305-6004 ph: 650-725-9953<tel:650-725-9953> fax: 650-725-1120<tel:650-725-1120> e-mail: ler...@stanford.edu<mailto:ler...@stanford.edu> ________________________________ From: Heb-naco <heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu>> on behalf of Yossi Galron <jgal...@gmail.com<mailto:jgal...@gmail.com>> Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 12:17 PM To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] Romanization Question I wouldn't change our practice. Just lazy. Yossi On Nov 9, 2015 3:11 PM, "sshtuhl" <ssht...@upenn.edu<mailto:ssht...@upenn.edu>> wrote: Hi all, We had an interesting discussion about the Romanization of foreign-loan words. Can we get to any agreement about how to Romanize the word פסיפס? Thanks, Smadar -- Smadar Shtuhl Hebraica Library Specialist University of Pennsylvania Van Pelt-Dietrich Library Center 3420 Walnut Street Philadelphia, PA 19104-6206 F. 215-573-9610<tel:215-573-9610> ssht...@upenn.edu<mailto:ssht...@upenn.edu> _______________________________________________ Heb-naco mailing list Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu<mailto:Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu> https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco _______________________________________________ Heb-naco mailing list Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu<mailto:Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu> https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco _______________________________________________ Heb-naco mailing list Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu<mailto:Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu> https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco
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