They have the space. It’s a question of schedule, amount of space required & $$. Got a date?
Kevin, you’re local, could you call or drop by? > On Mar 23, 2017, at 11:38 PM, D.V.Rogers <d...@allshookup.org> wrote: > > Best Way to Cut Rigid Insulation Panels - https://youtu.be/KuFWRTEULD0 > <https://youtu.be/KuFWRTEULD0> > > On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Kevin Fischer <kfisc...@gmail.com > <mailto:kfisc...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Anyone at American Steel have space they can lend for this? That would > work better than my backyard. Also a bandsaw with the right dust > vacuuming attachment could be really helpful; I've breathed enough > hexayurt dust for a lifetime already. > > On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 8:24 AM, hal muskat <phoe...@rainbowpuddle.com > <mailto:phoe...@rainbowpuddle.com>> wrote: > > I might have interest depending on costs . . . > > > > thank for doing this Kevin. > > > > AmSteel could have space as well as assembly space??? > > > > Hal > > > > On Mar 22, 2017, at 6:16 PM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project) > > <hexay...@gmail.com <mailto:hexay...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > > > This sounds like a great plan. > > > > V> > > > > -- > > Vinay Gupta hexay...@gmail.com <mailto:hexay...@gmail.com> > > http://re.silience.com <http://re.silience.com/> > > Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest > > UK Cell : +44 (0)7500 895568 <tel:%2B44%20%280%297500%20895568> > > Twitter/Skype/Gtalk: hexayurt > > "In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was > > in me an invincible summer" - Albert Camus > > > > On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 12:12 AM, Kevin Fischer <kfisc...@gmail.com > > <mailto:kfisc...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> > >> I asked Ashby Lumber for a quote for XCI 286 so waiting to hear back > >> from them. I'm happy to help organize a group buy, but don't have > >> warehouse storage space, just unsecure but in practice fine outdoor > >> yard space in South Berkeley where I can also host hexayurt build > >> sessions. Pretty sure we can get an order for 150 panels together, if > >> that's the minimum quantity to get great pricing. > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 5:58 AM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter > >> Project) <hexay...@gmail.com <mailto:hexay...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> > > >> > Very helpful note, DV. > >> > > >> > I'm going to be on the Playa this year. I'm very happy to go in on a > >> > purchase - I think we'd looking at about 32 to 35 panels. > >> > > >> > V> > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Vinay Gupta hexay...@gmail.com <mailto:hexay...@gmail.com> > >> > http://re.silience.com <http://re.silience.com/> > >> > Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest > >> > UK Cell : +44 (0)7500 895568 <tel:%2B44%20%280%297500%20895568> > >> > Twitter/Skype/Gtalk: hexayurt > >> > "In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was > >> > in me an invincible summer" - Albert Camus > >> > > >> > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 12:09 PM, D.V.Rogers <d...@allshookup.org > >> > <mailto:d...@allshookup.org>> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> I worked with Thermax CI for the DOMUS project which is the same as > >> >> Thermax HD except the external facer is blue instead of white. > >> >> > >> >> REF: http://domus.urbanaction.org <http://domus.urbanaction.org/> > >> >> > >> >> Thermax CI and HD is designed to be exposed outdoors for 6-12 months > >> >> and > >> >> has a great thermal rating and reasonable fire rating. > >> >> The increased price difference is because its DOW :( At the time i was > >> >> interested in using Hunter XCI but they didn't wish to communicate. > >> >> Thermax is expensive and difficult to source on the West Coast but I > >> >> used > >> >> http://foamsalesandmarketing.com/ <http://foamsalesandmarketing.com/> > >> >> in Burbank, C.A. for supply. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:40 PM, Kevin Fischer <kfisc...@gmail.com > >> >> <mailto:kfisc...@gmail.com>> > >> >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Is Thermax HD believed to be slightly better than Hunter XCI 286? To > >> >>> explain the increased cost, does it have a thicker layer of glass > >> >>> fiber foil that adds strength? Or is it pretty much the same thing? > >> >>> > >> >>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Adam Bregenzer <a...@bregenzer.net > >> >>> <mailto:a...@bregenzer.net>> > >> >>> wrote: > >> >>> > No problem, we found it at a couple of places, it seems readily > >> >>> > available at commercial construction supply stores such as IDI < > >> >>> > http://idi-insulation.com/ <http://idi-insulation.com/> > and Allied > >> >>> > < > >> >>> > http://www.alliedbuilding.com/ <http://www.alliedbuilding.com/> >. > >> >>> > Both were willing to sell over the > >> >>> > counter and kept the product in stock or within less than a week > >> >>> > delivery, they also were willing to deliver locally. > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter > >> >>> > Project) > >> >>> > <hexay...@gmail.com <mailto:hexay...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Really good to know about the Hunter XCI. Thank you for finding it, > >> >>> >> Adam and > >> >>> >> Hunter. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Could somebody add it to the wiki? Do we have any more information > >> >>> >> on > >> >>> >> the > >> >>> >> supply chain, how to actually buy the stuff? Who's stocking it? > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> V> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> -- > >> >>> >> Vinay Gupta hexay...@gmail.com <mailto:hexay...@gmail.com> > >> >>> >> http://re.silience.com <http://re.silience.com/> > >> >>> >> Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest > >> >>> >> UK Cell : +44 (0)7500 895568 <tel:%2B44%20%280%297500%20895568> > >> >>> >> Twitter/Skype/Gtalk: hexayurt > >> >>> >> "In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was > >> >>> >> in me an invincible summer" - Albert Camus > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Adam Bregenzer > >> >>> >> <a...@bregenzer.net <mailto:a...@bregenzer.net>> > >> >>> >> wrote: > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> We couldn't find anyone who would sell Thermax HD unless we bought > >> >>> >>> Dow's > >> >>> >>> entire minimum order from them, which is 1,100 sheets. > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> The good news is we found an alternative panel, Hunter Xci 286 > >> >>> >>> (link > >> >>> >>> to > >> >>> >>> specs below). It has the same compressive strength and fire rating > >> >>> >>> as > >> >>> >>> Thermax HD and is available in smaller quantities, also it's > >> >>> >>> cheaper > >> >>> >>> than > >> >>> >>> the quoted price for Thermax, but still relatively expensive at > >> >>> >>> ~$33 > >> >>> >>> / > >> >>> >>> sheet. The foil on both sides is a metal foil. One side is highly > >> >>> >>> reflective, the other is white. > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> http://www.hunterxci.com/images/submittal_docs/XCI_286_lit.pdf > >> >>> >>> <http://www.hunterxci.com/images/submittal_docs/XCI_286_lit.pdf> > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> On Jun 10, 2014 8:50 AM, "Hunter" <neversph...@gmail.com > >> >>> >>> <mailto:neversph...@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> >>> >>>> > >> >>> >>>> After months of searching we found out no one in the bay area > >> >>> >>>> will > >> >>> >>>> supply > >> >>> >>>> you with thermax hd (if you were buying less than 150 sheets). We > >> >>> >>>> went with > >> >>> >>>> Hunter xcl (?) which had similar fire properties. > >> >>> >>>> > >> >>> >>>> On Jun 10, 2014 8:40 AM, "Dan March" <dr.dan.ma...@gmail.com > >> >>> >>>> <mailto:dr.dan.ma...@gmail.com>> > >> >>> >>>> wrote: > >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> >>>>> Hey Tim ~ I'm also concerned with safety and look for materials > >> >>> >>>>> that > >> >>> >>>>> really do the job well.... and with a safety margin I'm > >> >>> >>>>> comfortable > >> >>> >>>>> with. > >> >>> >>>>> The theoretical fire-related risks in a yurt with aluminized > >> >>> >>>>> interior > >> >>> >>>>> surface are scary with the lens effect and other concentrating > >> >>> >>>>> potentials. > >> >>> >>>>> Even - or in some hypothetical cases - without the foam board > >> >>> >>>>> itself > >> >>> >>>>> catching fire, just having any substantial amount of stuff > >> >>> >>>>> burning > >> >>> >>>>> in a > >> >>> >>>>> heat-concentrating structure can get pretty intense. Thinking > >> >>> >>>>> of > >> >>> >>>>> keeping > >> >>> >>>>> any flames out of there, myself. I like to cook but might have > >> >>> >>>>> a > >> >>> >>>>> separate, > >> >>> >>>>> safer place to do it... also experimenting with more serious > >> >>> >>>>> electrical > >> >>> >>>>> power and using non-flame cooking stuffs like induction - which > >> >>> >>>>> looks > >> >>> >>>>> amazing btw. > >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> >>>>> It appears to me that a well-constructed H15 (which, to me, > >> >>> >>>>> means > >> >>> >>>>> mitered corners - which really improve the integrity of tape > >> >>> >>>>> joints > >> >>> >>>>> & > >> >>> >>>>> carrying through the structural properties of the skin over the > >> >>> >>>>> foam, and > >> >>> >>>>> also means well tied down and weak points like doorways > >> >>> >>>>> reinforced) > >> >>> >>>>> made => > >> >>> >>>>> 1.5" thick board should stand up to an acceptably high > >> >>> >>>>> percentage > >> >>> >>>>> of > >> >>> >>>>> possible weather on the playa. I don't think any weight > >> >>> >>>>> difference > >> >>> >>>>> is > >> >>> >>>>> practically significant. I can lift a whole H15 either way if > >> >>> >>>>> it's > >> >>> >>>>> a > >> >>> >>>>> package I can handle. > >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> >>>>> I'm playing with Hexacomb board. It's quite a bit more rigid > >> >>> >>>>> but > >> >>> >>>>> needs > >> >>> >>>>> waterproofing and possibly some help with insulation & > >> >>> >>>>> reflection. > >> >>> >>>>> It's > >> >>> >>>>> pretty light and about half the price of HD. Also playing with > >> >>> >>>>> hybrid > >> >>> >>>>> systems - board captured by EMT TinkerToy. Hard to price that > >> >>> >>>>> kind > >> >>> >>>>> of stuff > >> >>> >>>>> though... more of an art statement you live in... > >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> >>>>> Re group buys, Home Depot might special order HD in some > >> >>> >>>>> quantity, > >> >>> >>>>> but > >> >>> >>>>> probably not necessarily a huge amount, so I'm not counting that > >> >>> >>>>> as > >> >>> >>>>> much of > >> >>> >>>>> a barrier. Costs a bit more but like you say... Either way, I > >> >>> >>>>> can do the > >> >>> >>>>> kits and accessories. > >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> >>>>> ~ Dan > >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> >>>>> > >> >>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:24 PM, Tim <timcann...@gmail.com > >> >>> >>>>> <mailto:timcann...@gmail.com>> > >> >>> >>>>> wrote: > >> >>> >>>>>> > >> >>> >>>>>> We'd be interested in a group order as well. > >> >>> >>>>>> > >> >>> >>>>>> I'm somewhat new to yurt building. I've read most of the guides > >> >>> >>>>>> but am > >> >>> >>>>>> yet to read up on true side-by-side comparisons of each type of > >> >>> >>>>>> material for > >> >>> >>>>>> playa use. I tend to "buy the best" if that makes sense, so I'm > >> >>> >>>>>> attracted to > >> >>> >>>>>> HD. That said, is it actually that much better on the playa? > >> >>> >>>>>> I'm > >> >>> >>>>>> also > >> >>> >>>>>> curious if it weighs much more, considering structural > >> >>> >>>>>> implications for an > >> >>> >>>>>> H15. Thanks for any insight. Count us in if this *is* the > >> >>> >>>>>> "best" > >> >>> >>>>>> option for > >> >>> >>>>>> the $$. > >> >>> >>>>>> > >> >>> >>>>>> > >> >>> >>>>>> On Sunday, May 4, 2014 8:00:20 AM UTC-7, BurnerDan wrote: > >> >>> >>>>>>> > >> >>> >>>>>>> Safety is an issue. All campers need to be aware of the risks > >> >>> >>>>>>> - > >> >>> >>>>>>> especially of fire - in sleeping in many Playa constructs, but > >> >>> >>>>>>> yurts have > >> >>> >>>>>>> special dangers because of their materials and tightness. > >> >>> >>>>>>> > >> >>> >>>>>>> Is there any history of encouraging smoke alarm use and do > >> >>> >>>>>>> any/all > >> >>> >>>>>>> such units remain reliable under Playa conditions? > >> >>> >>>>>>> > >> >>> >>>>>>> On Saturday, February 1, 2014 6:06:59 AM UTC-8, Vinay Gupta > >> >>> >>>>>>> wrote: > >> >>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>> >>>>>>>> They're tougher. > >> >>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>> >>>>>>>> They're not that much more expensive. > >> >>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>> >>>>>>>> They won't catch fire. > >> >>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>> >>>>>>>> I feel like this would be a great year to actually fix the > >> >>> >>>>>>>> supply > >> >>> >>>>>>>> chain issues around Thermax HD (or equivalents from other > >> >>> >>>>>>>> manufacturers), do > >> >>> >>>>>>>> a container load bulk purchase, and start moving people off > >> >>> >>>>>>>> R-MAX etc. until > >> >>> >>>>>>>> there's a comprehensive solution for the fire risk. I really > >> >>> >>>>>>>> want to solve > >> >>> >>>>>>>> this problem before somebody gets hurt. > >> >>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>> >>>>>>>> http://www.appropedia.org/Hexayurt_Safety_Information > >> >>> >>>>>>>> <http://www.appropedia.org/Hexayurt_Safety_Information> > >> >>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>> >>>>>>>> Vinay > >> >>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>> >>>>>>>> -- > >> >>> >>>>>>>> Vinay Gupta > >> >>> >>>>>>>> Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest > >> >>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>> >>>>>>>> http://bit.ly/gupta_arc <http://bit.ly/gupta_arc> - the Gupta > >> >>> >>>>>>>> State Failure Management > >> >>> >>>>>>>> Archive > >> >>> >>>>>>>> http://bit.ly/gupta_ark <http://bit.ly/gupta_ark> - or see it > >> >>> >>>>>>>> directly on Archive.org > >> >>> >>>>>>>> > >> >>> >>>>>>>> http://hexayurt.com <http://hexayurt.com/> - free/open next > >> >>> >>>>>>>> generation human > >> >>> >>>>>>>> sheltering > >> >>> >>>>>>>> http://hexayurt.com/plan <http://hexayurt.com/plan> - the > >> >>> >>>>>>>> whole 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