A guy on the youtube comments suggests a pizza slicer. https://www.amazon.com/OXO-SteeL-Pizza-Wheel-Cutter/dp/B0000E2GYL I could see that working really well also.
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 11:38 PM, D.V.Rogers <d...@allshookup.org> wrote: > Best Way to Cut Rigid Insulation Panels - https://youtu.be/KuFWRTEULD0 > > On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Kevin Fischer <kfisc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Anyone at American Steel have space they can lend for this? That would >> work better than my backyard. Also a bandsaw with the right dust >> vacuuming attachment could be really helpful; I've breathed enough >> hexayurt dust for a lifetime already. >> >> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 8:24 AM, hal muskat <phoe...@rainbowpuddle.com> >> wrote: >> > I might have interest depending on costs . . . >> > >> > thank for doing this Kevin. >> > >> > AmSteel could have space as well as assembly space??? >> > >> > Hal >> > >> > On Mar 22, 2017, at 6:16 PM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project) >> > <hexay...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > >> > This sounds like a great plan. >> > >> > V> >> > >> > -- >> > Vinay Gupta hexay...@gmail.com http://re.silience.com >> > Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest >> > UK Cell : +44 (0)7500 895568 Twitter/Skype/Gtalk: hexayurt >> > "In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was >> > in me an invincible summer" - Albert Camus >> > >> > On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 12:12 AM, Kevin Fischer <kfisc...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I asked Ashby Lumber for a quote for XCI 286 so waiting to hear back >> >> from them. I'm happy to help organize a group buy, but don't have >> >> warehouse storage space, just unsecure but in practice fine outdoor >> >> yard space in South Berkeley where I can also host hexayurt build >> >> sessions. Pretty sure we can get an order for 150 panels together, if >> >> that's the minimum quantity to get great pricing. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 5:58 AM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter >> >> Project) <hexay...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Very helpful note, DV. >> >> > >> >> > I'm going to be on the Playa this year. I'm very happy to go in on a >> >> > purchase - I think we'd looking at about 32 to 35 panels. >> >> > >> >> > V> >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Vinay Gupta hexay...@gmail.com http://re.silience.com >> >> > Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest >> >> > UK Cell : +44 (0)7500 895568 Twitter/Skype/Gtalk: hexayurt >> >> > "In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was >> >> > in me an invincible summer" - Albert Camus >> >> > >> >> > On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 12:09 PM, D.V.Rogers <d...@allshookup.org> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> I worked with Thermax CI for the DOMUS project which is the same as >> >> >> Thermax HD except the external facer is blue instead of white. >> >> >> >> >> >> REF: http://domus.urbanaction.org >> >> >> >> >> >> Thermax CI and HD is designed to be exposed outdoors for 6-12 months >> >> >> and >> >> >> has a great thermal rating and reasonable fire rating. >> >> >> The increased price difference is because its DOW :( At the time i >> >> >> was >> >> >> interested in using Hunter XCI but they didn't wish to communicate. >> >> >> Thermax is expensive and difficult to source on the West Coast but I >> >> >> used >> >> >> http://foamsalesandmarketing.com/ in Burbank, C.A. for supply. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 6:40 PM, Kevin Fischer <kfisc...@gmail.com> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Is Thermax HD believed to be slightly better than Hunter XCI 286? >> >> >>> To >> >> >>> explain the increased cost, does it have a thicker layer of glass >> >> >>> fiber foil that adds strength? Or is it pretty much the same thing? >> >> >>> >> >> >>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Adam Bregenzer <a...@bregenzer.net> >> >> >>> wrote: >> >> >>> > No problem, we found it at a couple of places, it seems readily >> >> >>> > available at commercial construction supply stores such as IDI < >> >> >>> > http://idi-insulation.com/ > and Allied < >> >> >>> > http://www.alliedbuilding.com/ >. Both were willing to sell over >> >> >>> > the >> >> >>> > counter and kept the product in stock or within less than a week >> >> >>> > delivery, they also were willing to deliver locally. >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter >> >> >>> > Project) >> >> >>> > <hexay...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> Really good to know about the Hunter XCI. Thank you for finding >> >> >>> >> it, >> >> >>> >> Adam and >> >> >>> >> Hunter. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> Could somebody add it to the wiki? Do we have any more >> >> >>> >> information >> >> >>> >> on >> >> >>> >> the >> >> >>> >> supply chain, how to actually buy the stuff? Who's stocking it? >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> V> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> -- >> >> >>> >> Vinay Gupta hexay...@gmail.com http://re.silience.com >> >> >>> >> Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest >> >> >>> >> UK Cell : +44 (0)7500 895568 Twitter/Skype/Gtalk: hexayurt >> >> >>> >> "In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was >> >> >>> >> in me an invincible summer" - Albert Camus >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Adam Bregenzer >> >> >>> >> <a...@bregenzer.net> >> >> >>> >> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> We couldn't find anyone who would sell Thermax HD unless we >> >> >>> >>> bought >> >> >>> >>> Dow's >> >> >>> >>> entire minimum order from them, which is 1,100 sheets. >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> The good news is we found an alternative panel, Hunter Xci 286 >> >> >>> >>> (link >> >> >>> >>> to >> >> >>> >>> specs below). It has the same compressive strength and fire >> >> >>> >>> rating >> >> >>> >>> as >> >> >>> >>> Thermax HD and is available in smaller quantities, also it's >> >> >>> >>> cheaper >> >> >>> >>> than >> >> >>> >>> the quoted price for Thermax, but still relatively expensive at >> >> >>> >>> ~$33 >> >> >>> >>> / >> >> >>> >>> sheet. The foil on both sides is a metal foil. One side is >> >> >>> >>> highly >> >> >>> >>> reflective, the other is white. >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> http://www.hunterxci.com/images/submittal_docs/XCI_286_lit.pdf >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> On Jun 10, 2014 8:50 AM, "Hunter" <neversph...@gmail.com> >> >> >>> >>> wrote: >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> After months of searching we found out no one in the bay area >> >> >>> >>>> will >> >> >>> >>>> supply >> >> >>> >>>> you with thermax hd (if you were buying less than 150 sheets). >> >> >>> >>>> We >> >> >>> >>>> went with >> >> >>> >>>> Hunter xcl (?) which had similar fire properties. >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> On Jun 10, 2014 8:40 AM, "Dan March" <dr.dan.ma...@gmail.com> >> >> >>> >>>> wrote: >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>> Hey Tim ~ I'm also concerned with safety and look for >> >> >>> >>>>> materials >> >> >>> >>>>> that >> >> >>> >>>>> really do the job well.... and with a safety margin I'm >> >> >>> >>>>> comfortable >> >> >>> >>>>> with. >> >> >>> >>>>> The theoretical fire-related risks in a yurt with aluminized >> >> >>> >>>>> interior >> >> >>> >>>>> surface are scary with the lens effect and other >> >> >>> >>>>> concentrating >> >> >>> >>>>> potentials. >> >> >>> >>>>> Even - or in some hypothetical cases - without the foam board >> >> >>> >>>>> itself >> >> >>> >>>>> catching fire, just having any substantial amount of stuff >> >> >>> >>>>> burning >> >> >>> >>>>> in a >> >> >>> >>>>> heat-concentrating structure can get pretty intense. >> >> >>> >>>>> Thinking >> >> >>> >>>>> of >> >> >>> >>>>> keeping >> >> >>> >>>>> any flames out of there, myself. I like to cook but might >> >> >>> >>>>> have >> >> >>> >>>>> a >> >> >>> >>>>> separate, >> >> >>> >>>>> safer place to do it... also experimenting with more serious >> >> >>> >>>>> electrical >> >> >>> >>>>> power and using non-flame cooking stuffs like induction - >> >> >>> >>>>> which >> >> >>> >>>>> looks >> >> >>> >>>>> amazing btw. >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>> It appears to me that a well-constructed H15 (which, to me, >> >> >>> >>>>> means >> >> >>> >>>>> mitered corners - which really improve the integrity of tape >> >> >>> >>>>> joints >> >> >>> >>>>> & >> >> >>> >>>>> carrying through the structural properties of the skin over >> >> >>> >>>>> the >> >> >>> >>>>> foam, and >> >> >>> >>>>> also means well tied down and weak points like doorways >> >> >>> >>>>> reinforced) >> >> >>> >>>>> made => >> >> >>> >>>>> 1.5" thick board should stand up to an acceptably high >> >> >>> >>>>> percentage >> >> >>> >>>>> of >> >> >>> >>>>> possible weather on the playa. I don't think any weight >> >> >>> >>>>> difference >> >> >>> >>>>> is >> >> >>> >>>>> practically significant. I can lift a whole H15 either way >> >> >>> >>>>> if >> >> >>> >>>>> it's >> >> >>> >>>>> a >> >> >>> >>>>> package I can handle. >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>> I'm playing with Hexacomb board. It's quite a bit more rigid >> >> >>> >>>>> but >> >> >>> >>>>> needs >> >> >>> >>>>> waterproofing and possibly some help with insulation & >> >> >>> >>>>> reflection. >> >> >>> >>>>> It's >> >> >>> >>>>> pretty light and about half the price of HD. Also playing >> >> >>> >>>>> with >> >> >>> >>>>> hybrid >> >> >>> >>>>> systems - board captured by EMT TinkerToy. Hard to price >> >> >>> >>>>> that >> >> >>> >>>>> kind >> >> >>> >>>>> of stuff >> >> >>> >>>>> though... more of an art statement you live in... >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>> Re group buys, Home Depot might special order HD in some >> >> >>> >>>>> quantity, >> >> >>> >>>>> but >> >> >>> >>>>> probably not necessarily a huge amount, so I'm not counting >> >> >>> >>>>> that >> >> >>> >>>>> as >> >> >>> >>>>> much of >> >> >>> >>>>> a barrier. Costs a bit more but like you say... Either >> >> >>> >>>>> way, I >> >> >>> >>>>> can do the >> >> >>> >>>>> kits and accessories. >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>> ~ Dan >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:24 PM, Tim <timcann...@gmail.com> >> >> >>> >>>>> wrote: >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> We'd be interested in a group order as well. >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> I'm somewhat new to yurt building. I've read most of the >> >> >>> >>>>>> guides >> >> >>> >>>>>> but am >> >> >>> >>>>>> yet to read up on true side-by-side comparisons of each type >> >> >>> >>>>>> of >> >> >>> >>>>>> material for >> >> >>> >>>>>> playa use. I tend to "buy the best" if that makes sense, so >> >> >>> >>>>>> I'm >> >> >>> >>>>>> attracted to >> >> >>> >>>>>> HD. That said, is it actually that much better on the playa? >> >> >>> >>>>>> I'm >> >> >>> >>>>>> also >> >> >>> >>>>>> curious if it weighs much more, considering structural >> >> >>> >>>>>> implications for an >> >> >>> >>>>>> H15. Thanks for any insight. Count us in if this *is* the >> >> >>> >>>>>> "best" >> >> >>> >>>>>> option for >> >> >>> >>>>>> the $$. >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>> On Sunday, May 4, 2014 8:00:20 AM UTC-7, BurnerDan wrote: >> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>>> Safety is an issue. All campers need to be aware of the >> >> >>> >>>>>>> risks >> >> >>> >>>>>>> - >> >> >>> >>>>>>> especially of fire - in sleeping in many Playa constructs, >> >> >>> >>>>>>> but >> >> >>> >>>>>>> yurts have >> >> >>> >>>>>>> special dangers because of their materials and tightness. >> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>>> Is there any history of encouraging smoke alarm use and do >> >> >>> >>>>>>> any/all >> >> >>> >>>>>>> such units remain reliable under Playa conditions? >> >> >>> >>>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>>> On Saturday, February 1, 2014 6:06:59 AM UTC-8, Vinay Gupta >> >> >>> >>>>>>> wrote: >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> They're tougher. >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> They're not that much more expensive. >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> They won't catch fire. >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> I feel like this would be a great year to actually fix the >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> supply >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> chain issues around Thermax HD (or equivalents from other >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> manufacturers), do >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> a container load bulk purchase, and start moving people >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> off >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> R-MAX etc. until >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> there's a comprehensive solution for the fire risk. I >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> really >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> want to solve >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> this problem before somebody gets hurt. >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> http://www.appropedia.org/Hexayurt_Safety_Information >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> Vinay >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> -- >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> Vinay Gupta >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> Free Science and Engineering in the Global Public Interest >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> http://bit.ly/gupta_arc - the Gupta State Failure >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> Management >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> Archive >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> http://bit.ly/gupta_ark - or see it directly on >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> Archive.org >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> http://hexayurt.com - free/open next generation human >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> sheltering >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> http://hexayurt.com/plan - the whole systems, big picture >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> vision >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> "In the midst of winter, I finally learned that there was >> >> >>> >>>>>>>> in >> >> 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