Yeah, this is what I've been saying too. There's a time and a place for scripting languages. Like, scripting languages for use by mappers to create cool far-ranging effects, that type of thing. For main logic use, however, it seems pointless. Any scripting language complex enough to use would be just as complex as a normal programming language, with the detriment of no one knowing it.
Persuter
At 10:09 PM 5/27/2003 -0700, you wrote:
Scripting languages belong OUTSIDE of hlds.
Take for example halfd, written in TCL (a scripting language). Wonderful tool for hlds_l admins. It remains outside of hlds as a wrapper that intercepts console and interacts to whats going on in hlds from outside of the binary executable.
If we are going to have a big debate over what should and shouldn't be in hl2 it would be more productive to discuss a better api for interacting with hlds from outside the engine AND mod. The current hlds server protocol (for queries) is crap, imho. A lesson could be learned from Halfd and its "newapi" protocol. yes I probably am biased since I helped come up with the protocol but it's not exactly new thinking. tab delimited is a widely used format.
For what it's worth, I believe in using the best language for the job. Sometimes I find scripting languages to be best, sometimes I find C/C++ best for the project at hand.
Ok so I didn't add much to this discussion. But I would like to see the hlds query (aka server protocol) api discussed. I hope Valve will make serious changes to it prior to coming up with a formal SDK for hl2.
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