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This is something we're definitely thinking about given the success of
the UI beta.

We're going to try this out with the upcoming SDK release as well, which
is a week or two off.

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I think this has been a resounding success, valve probably would not
have
found all these bugs before releasing the update.

Now this got me thinking, what if this optional command was extended to
the
actual engine? It would certainly help valve to prevent another patch
like
the 9/30 patch.

Say for example, there is a normal 'source engine.gcf' which we would
launch
normally and there would be a 'source engine beta.gcf' which we would
launch
our mods and valve games on the launch properties like -betaengine.

This would help us the MOD community test for breaking changes and if we
started having problems that valve couldnt produce with their Q&A
process.

What do you guys think?

On 10/10/05, Tim Holt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Interesting article about UI design paradigm changes. If you're into
UI,
> this
> is a great website even if the author has pretty strong opinions.
>
> http://www.useit.com/alertbox/wysiwyg.html
>
> Quoting "Dan Stevens (IAmAI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
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> > http://www.cstrike-planet.com/steamskins/
> >
> > So why does it have a skin menu in settings?
> >
> > On 10/10/05, Andrew Foss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Steam is not skinnable enough.
> > >
> > > On 10/9/05, Tim Holt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > The irony is that before windows, people complained about
> inconsistent
> > > UI
> > > > design, and found the Mac then Windows UI a blessing to unify
> things.
> > > Guess if
> > > > you've watch things long enough you see it goes full circle.
> Frankly, I
> > > welcome
> > > > our UI standard overlords!
> > > >
> > > > Quoting "Andrew (Bromfitsen)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > >
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> > > > > What's the point in having a program that follows windows
> "Standards"
> > > if
> > > > > 99.9% of the people using it would rather it not look like the
> > > THOUSANDS of
> > > > > generic, boring and uninspired applications that they already
have
> > > > > installed? The new UI is much better than the old one, and I
> > > congradulate
> > > > > valve on making the change. But if they were to make it
conform to
> a
> > > classic
> > > > > windows theme I would much rather use the dull UI that it
> currently
> > > uses.
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